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#1 camo

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:54 PM

I seems to me that in every gun, the little pin thing is the only thing that keeps the dart in place before you fire it (as you're running around and stuff), so I don't take it out. But now that I've gotten around to taking the AR out of the longshot's front gun and finding it impossible to do while keeping the pin intact, I've run into the delema of taking it out or not. How do you keep the dart in the gun without the pin?


note that I can not do brass/pvc barrels due to lack of spare cash and time. though I might be able to do a crayola barrel. Also not that I'm planning on useing either CDTS or stock streamline darts
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#2 bobafan

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:06 PM

Well, I havn't delved very far into the workings of the LS frontgun because of its suckyness but I do think the peg and AR are the same piece of plastic.

You should be able to buy PVC it's dirt cheap.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:11 PM

You should be able to buy PVC it's dirt cheap.

I can vouch for that, I get it at 24 cents-a-foot including tax.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:40 PM

Get CPVC for micro darts, PVC doesn't fit micros. CPVC can be had for 50 cents a foot at ACE hardware.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 05:14 PM

but wouldn't the darts either fall out or not be able to shoot? there's nothing holding it in place
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 05:25 PM

If you're darts are falling out, then you have a shitty seal. Get a small ID barrel, or different foam. In the cas of the LS, the barrel is already too big, so you need to replace the barrel for a better fit.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 05:29 PM

but wouldn't the darts either fall out or not be able to shoot? there's nothing holding it in place

CPVC is tight on micros (stefan or not). It is tight enough for them to fit in there, but nerf gun with more power than an AT1K will be able to shoot darts out of it.

You are completely wrong about the pin holding darts in. Look at a Maverick's barrels. The back end of them is a tad bit smaller than the front part. This constriction holds darts in, and also is the reason why leaving darts in their maverick often leads to the backs being squished.

If you need another example: look at a peice of PVC and a PVC coupler. Friction/constriction holds them together.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 07:46 PM

I seems to me that in every gun, the little pin thing is the only thing that keeps the dart in place before you fire it (as you're running around and stuff), so I don't take it out. But now that I've gotten around to taking the AR out of the longshot's front gun and finding it impossible to do while keeping the pin intact, I've run into the delema of taking it out or not. How do you keep the dart in the gun without the pin?


note that I can not do brass/pvc barrels due to lack of spare cash and time. though I might be able to do a crayola barrel. Also not that I'm planning on useing either CDTS or stock streamline darts



Since no one else seems to be able to read...

I have done over 20 AR removal of this gun, and have never had an issue with the dart falling out. I just took a dart, and one of the LS fronts that I had around, and loaded the dart, and then violently swung it in a circle/crazy pattern, and it stayed in. (no AR)

So the answer is, sure, take the peg out. It won't hurt.

1/2 Stephans seem to be a better dart for it anyway, considering the center of mass of the dart is barely inside of the barrel.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 11:03 PM

Yeah this seriously shouldn't be a problem. Even in stock barrels, I've never had a dart just fall out. You'd have to have such a shitty seal.
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Posted 28 May 2007 - 12:12 AM

I've had plenty of Dart Tag darts and streamlines drop out of my magstrike clips that have the pegs removed. But I don't use stock darts very often for that exact reason: they're not consistently sized.
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Posted 28 May 2007 - 01:13 PM

I've just been thinking back to my days with a hornet, where If I'm lucky, there would be at least a dart there to fire, even if it's the last barrel that gets no air at all
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Posted 28 May 2007 - 10:15 PM

People worry too much about the exact diameter the barrel needs to be to work out. I think that people forget that the projectiles are made out of foam, and as such have a pretty good ablilty to conform to the barrel. With that said, i use 1/2 inch PVC from Lowes for all my barrels, and for my darts i use hotglue filled streamlines. The easiest way to pick barrel material is to take a few darts with you and jam them in various pipes at the hardware store until you find one that fits. No science, no tools, no measuring, just guess and check. If you're loading the darts into the back of the barrel (for a coupler mod breech loader type arrangement) and they don't fit, try rolling them between your palms to compress them a bit first.
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