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#1 Dayko

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 07:55 PM

Ok this is my first write-up. Here is the Super Soaker TripleShot
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Sorry I don't have the internal pictures before I mooded it. I started this before I joined here. The mod is really easy so don't fret about pictures being taken after I modded it. Ok we open the gun up And cut off that big orange thing, cause we don't need it.
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Note the silver thing in front of the pump is super slued in place so you have too carefully cut that off.
Then hot glue the air pump thing too the air tank like this
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Also hot glue the seem that hooks the valve too the air tank(Sorry for not having the picture of this,but you can see it in the above picture. Now get some sort of barrel that you want, I used my piece of barrel that you take out when you mod the NF and used that. Posted Image
It works really well. Now hot glue the barrel too where the big orange thing was, see above picture.
Now sand/cut out some of the gun casing too make it fit with the hot glue is done drying. Now put it back together and your done. now you have your self and air powered gun that used too be a water gun. Here's what it looks like when your done
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The front now
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The ranges are usually 65+ feet with a stefans and about 55-60 with stock darts.

So what did you guys think?
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:08 PM

I wanted to convert a Super Soaker to a Nerf gun, but I have yet to find a store near me that stocks decent ones. Nice conversion.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:12 PM

I would at the very least adjust that crooked barrel. Also, maybe consider a different barrel material.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:13 PM

Is it posible to use a longer barrel to get higher ranges?
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:15 PM

The barrel is the only thing I had on hand. I don't know if a longer barrel will make it go farther. That was the straightest I could get it. It kept moving while I was gluing it.

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#6 SHADOW HUNTER ALPHA

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:18 PM

Is it posible to use a longer barrel to get higher ranges?

That depends on the air output of the gun. Since water guns usually reserve most of their storage space for water, you would need to hook the pump directly to the tank and then use the greater air capacity to propel the dart through a longer barrel.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:22 PM

Oh I forgot too say you should only pump about 20-30 times, any other then that the missile loses range and accuracy.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:18 PM

One question, is the airtank like other super soakers (an air bladder, in which case a longer barrel would definetly help) or is it like nerf guns, where all the air is released with the pull of the trigger?
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:29 PM

I have done this before, whan you pull the trigger, like super soakers, not all air is realesed.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 11:02 PM

One question, is the airtank like other super soakers (an air bladder, in which case a longer barrel would definetly help) or is it like nerf guns, where all the air is released with the pull of the trigger?


There is no bladder. The air tank is plastic. Most of the air is released, only a little bit stays in the tank.
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Posted 26 May 2007 - 09:21 AM

I have this Arctic Shock Supersoaker. Would it work to mod it, and how would I do so?
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Posted 26 May 2007 - 10:06 AM

I wanted to convert a Super Soaker to a Nerf gun, but I have yet to find a store near me that stocks decent ones. Nice conversion.


Look at the Dollar Generals, Dollar Trees etc. My local Dollar stores have some xp 70's and xp 270's. I think it was 270 I don't remember exactly.
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Posted 26 May 2007 - 12:09 PM

I made a sucessful conversion using an XP310, and yes, with most super soakers, a longer barrel is much better. If you're getting 65 feet with a Nightfinder barrel, than you should be able to get awesome ranges with a better material.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 08:02 PM

I have this Arctic Shock Supersoaker. Would it work to mod it, and how would I do so?

I don't know. I haven't seen the internals of that gun. I might try some cpvc later on. How long should the barrel be?
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 08:17 PM

Probably around 20 in. I'm not 100% positive though.
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Posted 27 May 2007 - 11:15 PM

I don't know. I haven't seen the internals of that gun. I might try some cpvc later on. How long should the barrel be?



Probably around 20 in. I'm not 100% positive though.


Unless you have really skinny darts, 20 inches would be way too high. You'd want a CPVC barrel around 12" long, though it depends how tight the fit is with your darts.
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Posted 28 May 2007 - 03:36 PM

I have almost the same amount of Stefans and stock darts, which means I use them all. So what length should the barrel be too use them both?
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Posted 29 May 2007 - 11:58 AM

with that much volume of air going through the barrel, the length is up to how portable you want the gun to be. I would say that 20 inches is almost too short. I'm assuming you want this to be a long range gun, so make it have a long barrel. There's enough air in there that it won't matter if the barrel's really long
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Posted 29 May 2007 - 02:41 PM

I suggest adding a CPVC coupler and making a long barrel for stefans, and a short barrel for stock darts.

Oh, and 20 inches is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY to long. 10 or 12 will suffice fine.

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 05:02 PM

Now are those saying that the barrel is too long basing this idea off of experience with air powered Nerf guns or based off of personal use with Super Soaker Conversions?

I myself have a converted Super Soaker, though the guy I got it from was an idiot and made it a telescoping barrel, which from my understanding isn't too great for air powered guns.

You have to take into account that since he says past 30 pumps his dart freaks out and loses velocity, meaning that the air being pushed against the dart is moving too fast, so a longer barrel will help a lot.

Also, 20 in. doesn't seem to outrageous. As a practical weapon, this barrel would be outrageously hard to maneuver, though if you can sit 150 - 200 ft away, then there's no need. I have pumped my Converted SS till the point in which I couldn't pump anymore and it shredded my stock Tagger dart. Thats with an 8 in. CPVC barrel. The main factor in the barrel needing to be longer is that if he could actually completely compresses the most amount of air in his tank, then as far as I know it would have more psi than any of the bladders, stock or modded, on air powered nerf guns. This would be more since the bottle is meant to hold water and pressurized air, but without the water the space is enormous, especially when forced down a tiny barrel.

Use this thread if you guys want to get really technical about it.

IMO 20 in. isn't an outrageous amount, but if you have to take into consideration how many pumps you want in between shots. If you want 40 or 50 pumps, go with long, but if want 20 or 30 go with about a 8 or 10 in barrel probably.

Experiment.
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Posted 29 May 2007 - 05:23 PM

IMO 20 in. isn't an outrageous amount, but if you have to take into consideration how many pumps you want in between shots. If you want 40 or 50 pumps, go with long, but if want 20 or 30 go with about a 8 or 10 in barrel probably.

Experiment.


20 inches isn't outrageous if your Stefans don't have a really tight fit in CPVC. If you have a looser, better fit for your Stefans, a 2' barrel would probably be what you would want. Look at people's Titan mods, they have huge barrels, but they all have a nice, smooth, looser fits for their darts.
If you want to use CPVC as a barrel, then go with Keks - Experiment. Start with a 20" barrel and test the range. Cut off an inch, test range, cut off another inch, etc. until you find the barrel length where you get the most range.
Then just make a new CPVC barrel at that length and there you go.

If you want to use both stock and Stefans, I'd suggest getting a PVC coupler, then get a PVC barrel (fits stock dart heads nicely) for stock darts, then nest your CPVC barrel in a bit of PVC so it fits in the PVC coupler.
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 03:40 PM

Ok I'll pick up some CPVC or PVC the next time I go too Lowes or Home Depot. What should the inside diameter? I want this too fire both Stefans and stock darts.
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 04:44 PM

Well, CPVC has an inner diameter of... .524" according to CS (.524 might not be the exact number, but I think it's close) and PVC has an inner diameter a tiny bit bigger than the diameter of stock dart tips, so it fits those real well.
CPVC will allow Stefans to be fired from the back of the barrel so more pressure can build up, but stock darts will only be able to be loaded from the tip.
PVC is the other way around, except it won't work with Stefans at all.

A PVC coupler would be the best if you want both stock darts and Stefans, as I said in my previous post.
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 09:27 PM

Ok But how do I attach the coupler too the gun? I'm still vary new too modding so I don't know how too do something like this.
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Posted 01 June 2007 - 01:06 PM

Being new to modding is no excuse to not be able to figure out that you GLUE the coupler onto the gun.

seriously though, just glue it on there.
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