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Need Help With My Longshot

it has no range!!!!!!

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#1 The Hellforger

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 09:53 AM

ok, so I got a longshot and started playing with it. at first the gate wouldn't go down so it wouldn't fire at all. so I took it apart and took out the gate. still didn't fire at all. so I took the spring out and stretched the shit out of that bitch, and now it fires maybe like 10 feet if i'm lucky. can any of you help me make it work, before i get pissed off and cut it up for paintball use?
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#2 CAP Blue Beret

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 10:27 AM

Well, the LS has that gate as a safety messure. If it is not at the right position during the time you pull the trigger, it wont fire far. I had this happen, and had to put in a different spring.
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#3 CaptainSlug

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 11:36 AM

You mean you took the dart tooth out? That forces the darts into the bolt, which is the effective barrel of the gun in stock form. If the darts are not forced into the bolt it's no real surprise that the darts aren't going very far.
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The dart tooth piece only lowers when the bolt is in it's most forward position.

Read more in this thread: http://nerfhaven.com...?showtopic=7002

Edited by CaptainSlug, 08 May 2007 - 11:38 AM.

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#4 The Hellforger

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 01:08 PM

but when I had the dart tooth in, it wouldn't even fire at all!

whats up with it?
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#5 SHADOW HUNTER ALPHA

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 02:37 PM

Evaluation:
1) Was the bolt moved all the way back and then all the way forward to fire?
2) Did the bolt actually catch?
3) Were all the pieces in the right spots?
4) Was the dart tooth's spring in the right position?
5) was there any piece that may have interfered with the dart tooth's operation?
6) Did you load the darts correctly?

If the answers to all of those are yes, then we might need a few pictures or a video to understand exactly what is/was happening here.

Also: It isn't a good idea to strech the spring, because it will become less and less effective aftere only a few shots. You could always buy another LS and keep this one for parts, so you have a fresh spring and system...

Edited by SHADOW HUNTER ALPHA, 08 May 2007 - 02:39 PM.

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 02:59 PM

With the bolt moved to the rearward position open the jam door and install the magazine. Watch what is happening to the dart as the bolt is advanced forward and describe it.

The dart has to be "swallowed" by the bolt and in order for that to happen the dart-tooth has to be in the gun.
And yes the Longshot sucks when stock, but it should still be functioning properly unless you put it back together incorrectly.

Edited by CaptainSlug, 09 May 2007 - 03:27 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 09:38 AM

out of the box, I did everything. Pulled the bolt al the way back, loaded a fresh clip, pushed the bolt forward, and pulled the trigger. Guess what? no firing.

so now I have stripped this bitch down of all unnecessary parts (ready to fire indicator, magazine lock, etc.) even the dart tooth. Now when I load it up it will shoot maybe 10 feet if i'm lucky. It is an increase from what it was stock but there is still no range!!!!
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 01:10 PM

"Unnecessary parts?". Out of the box there are no "unnecessary parts" except for the air restrictor that would negatively affect the functionality of the gun.

There are only two possibilities left.

1. Something is defective.
3. You're doing something wrong.

Edited by CaptainSlug, 09 May 2007 - 01:11 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 01:51 PM

If out of the box it didn't fire, then there's probably something defective.
I would put the thing back together and return it.
Get a new one, if that one doesn't work, then your doing something wrong.
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#10 The Hellforger

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 03:18 PM

there are tons of unecessary parts
  • the magazine lock ( I like to remove my magazine when i would like to)
  • The loaded chamber indicator (I know when it is ready to rock)
  • the cam arm for the loaded chamber indicator
  • and lastly the bipod
all of those are unnecessary for operation

p.s. Do you know how to do the AR removal mod? I have no idea on the longshot


I also can't return it, because I took the front gun apart for a cool ass mod.

I took out the front guns internals and took off the foregrip and in its place I have a Maglight inside of it. Just involved a little bit of cutting and VIOLA!!! I can see at night.

Edited by The Hellforger, 09 May 2007 - 03:19 PM.

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#11 CaptainSlug

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 03:26 PM

there are tons of unecessary parts

  • the magazine lock ( I like to remove my magazine when i would like to)
  • The loaded chamber indicator (I know when it is ready to rock)
  • the cam arm for the loaded chamber indicator
  • and lastly the bipod
all of those are unnecessary for operation

The magazine lock holds the magazine in place and levels it so that the bolt can load a dart properly.
The piece that prevents you from removing or inserting the magazine when the bolt is in the forward position prevents you from damaging the bolt.

And yes the rest of the parts you listed are not vital and have affect on the function, although the priming indicator can be handy for later modifications.

p.s. Do you know how to do the AR removal mod? I have no idea on the longshot

http://nerfhaven.com...?showtopic=7527

But don't bother until you can get the gun to actually fire. I still don't really have enough to go on to diagnose your problem without pictures.
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#12 The Hellforger

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 03:18 PM

ok, I'll see if i can get you some pics soon
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