#1
Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:04 PM
This be my current "approach"
1.an inherently large piece of pipe (6" PVC) forms my basic shape.
2.The existing magazine will be remolded using a plaster mold and epoxy. (spray it with pam so you don't ruin it!)
What i need to know:
1.What's the best way to build resistance on the magazine
2.Is there an intrest in it
When i get paid next week it'll all go down. Seeya then.
The revolution will not be on CNN
The revolution will not cost $.99 a song.
The revolution will not be on the atkins diet.
The revolution will free us all.
Extension of a poem by gil-scott heron.
#3
Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:38 PM
http://nerfhaven.com...?showtopic=6886
And ompa, you had http twice... Here is the link:
http://www.boltsnipe...hp?showtopic=31
Enjoy.
#4
Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:03 PM
#5
Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:08 PM
~ompa
#6
Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:17 PM
#7
Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:35 PM
-Enigma1313
#8
Posted 14 August 2006 - 02:47 PM
Going down from the magazine the ammo would have a clock spring pushing it up. you'd be able to have about 30 rounds in the 4" drum. Atop it,the magazine would attach from the bottom,the same way it does in the regular.
The revolution will not be on CNN
The revolution will not cost $.99 a song.
The revolution will not be on the atkins diet.
The revolution will free us all.
Extension of a poem by gil-scott heron.
#9
Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:02 PM
As for actually getting the darts in the gun, you need a breech of somesort, and you need the darts to travel into the barrel as they turn or else they would just be sitting there. This is where I think PETG piping and clear PVC or plexiglass would come in hand. You would cut a section of the 6 inch PVC for the drum mag out to start the slot ofr the rubber band of course, so you rReally Really Effeminatee that section once the slot has been made, with plexiglass. This way you can see where the darts leave the drum into the feed. And when you make your breech, you use PETG so you can see if you have a dart in there or not. This way you know to look into the drum via the plexiglass, and to pull the feed back (pull what is connected to the rubberband) shake the device to eliminate the jam, and let go for the rubberband to pull the feed back where it was and let you clse the breech and prime the weapon. I think I will attemp this, and I will take pictures as I go. I will make different breeches for different guns, but make them all compatable with the drum feed.
#10
Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:14 PM
Okie-tay. this is what i have in mind now. my illustration skills aren't great,but you should be able to get the idea.
Okay. The gray box is what attaches to the actual gun itself. When a dart is inserted a spring-based elevator brings it into the barrel.
The black ring outside the red circle is the area where the ammo is carried. I'd use a very long,skinny spring (which would bend) And another,similarly styled elevator to carry ammo to the first elevator. sort of a big push rod.
The interior of the disc would be filled with small lengths of piping,giving everything something to grip to and keep it closed.
The springs themselves (with the attached elevators) would be held down by a small length of PVC on the actual exterior wall,holding the elevator and the second elevator (going to the gun) would be at a 25 degree pitch to assist in the extraction of the darts.
I'm gonna build this thing friday. i'll have a full write-up on it then.
Edited by Der Exilen, 14 August 2006 - 08:28 PM.
The revolution will not be on CNN
The revolution will not cost $.99 a song.
The revolution will not be on the atkins diet.
The revolution will free us all.
Extension of a poem by gil-scott heron.
#12
Posted 14 August 2006 - 09:21 PM
At the same time,i could then spiral the inside of the PVC and hold more ammo. lots more ammo. as in,enough ammo to not have to reload for hours.
The revolution will not be on CNN
The revolution will not cost $.99 a song.
The revolution will not be on the atkins diet.
The revolution will free us all.
Extension of a poem by gil-scott heron.
#14
Posted 14 August 2006 - 11:14 PM
My only solution for this, was to make the drum MUCH smaller than a CD tray. Perhaps one to hold 50 max...but that's plenty really. You would have a much smaller drum, with the wall of the drum coming closer and closer to the center of. So it starts a spiral. This keeps the darts going down into the feeder. As the "wall" pushes the darts forward, the wall of the drum would come in and keep pressure on the darts. and lead them to the feedneck.
It is VERY sketchy, but I did it in 45 seconds in paint.
I also mentioned PVC going around the drum to reinforce it from cuting the slip for the wall to be pulled, but I think one could do it with flashing steel and some epoxy. The only other thing that needs to be done, is reloading the drum. I think it would be a pain to put them all through the feed neck, but you would simply have to pull the wall back, and drop them in there. I would probably push one in there one at a time so not to jam them up or get them going upsidedown.
Improvements would include adding mor support and addinga lip at the top of the feed neck to hold the darts in a little better.
Edited by LastManAlive, 14 August 2006 - 11:17 PM.
#15
Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:25 AM
The revolution will not be on CNN
The revolution will not cost $.99 a song.
The revolution will not be on the atkins diet.
The revolution will free us all.
Extension of a poem by gil-scott heron.
#16
Posted 15 August 2006 - 08:47 PM
#17
Posted 15 August 2006 - 09:52 PM
Here are some thing's I have come up with:
Have a bolt conntected to the main clock spring (the main mag spring) that runs the entire circle length of the mag. Then when you have to re-load, just pull this bolt back and lock it in a notch in the center of the mag. Picture a pistol mag with a piece coming off of it. you pull this piece down to bring the spring (platform that pushes the bullets up and into the chamber) to the bottom of the mag.
If you find a way to make it detachable (Clips? Locks?) You wont need to have a speed re-load! Picture being able to hold 30 darts in each mag and being able to switch them up in under 10 seconds! If you have 3 mags thats 90 shots! If you fire more then 90 shots in one round...you need to work on your aim not your spray!
#18
Posted 16 August 2006 - 06:40 PM
I want to build a Drum magazine for my Longshot,but i figured i'd write up the basics.
This be my current "approach"
1.an inherently large piece of pipe (6" PVC) forms my basic shape.
2.The existing magazine will be remolded using a plaster mold and epoxy. (spray it with pam so you don't ruin it!)
What i need to know:
1.What's the best way to build resistance on the magazine
2.Is there an intrest in it
When i get paid next week it'll all go down. Seeya then.
Does that mean that you will be selling them if you get them to work and there's an interest in them? You could make some serious money off of that if it works.
Probably dead by now, or something.
#19
Posted 16 August 2006 - 10:27 PM
The revolution will not be on CNN
The revolution will not cost $.99 a song.
The revolution will not be on the atkins diet.
The revolution will free us all.
Extension of a poem by gil-scott heron.
#20
Posted 17 August 2006 - 08:49 PM
But i will consider it. if not,you'll get a full write-up on how to build your own.
Sounds great! Good luck with it. Even if it only holds 15-20 shots, it'll still be awesome.
Probably dead by now, or something.
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