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[nerfer34]

Well I'm gonna be a freshman soon and I play football. Our coach makes us go to the weight room and Ihave gotton so much stronger and I've only been lifting for about 8 hours.I now do reps of 50 lbs and I feel SO much stronger. It also helps me hit homers in baseball. I'd really recomend to all to start working out. It made me so much stronger and quickly. ANyone else lift often?

[pat 1st Lt]

Yes, but mostly leg stuff. I mostly do lower body stuff just because even the most intense endurance training won't help in the sprints (I'm a biker). They find that even for endurance sports, you need to do some strength training to be good at it. Endurance alone isn't what wins races.

So, yeah, I do some upper body stuff, but not like I'm a body-builder or any of those crazy guys who seem to live in our school gym. I mostly do upper-body stuff so I don't look freaky with pumped legs scrawny arms and a gut (Which a lot of riders do look like, scarily enough).




Sincerley,
Pat

[Forsaken angel24]

Bodybuilding Is my #1 hobby. Even though it has been on the backburner as of late I am recently starting up again. I have been training for over 7 years. I lift about 5 times a week. I entered my first bodybuilding show in June 2005 at the Fitness and model expo. I competed in the Juniors category. (21 and under)



To get ready for the show I was training in this style for 2.5 months. Training 3 hours a day, eating very strict food every 2 hours, Tanning about 20 minutes a day, Practice posing/routine about 30 minutes everyday. No alcohol, no smoking anything, no fun and dehydrating yourself 2 days before the show. Man it was brutal. However stepping on stage and seeing about 200-300 people in their seats with all eyes on you when you are in the best shape of your life is one of the most unexplainablly good feelings I have ever had. It was a drug free event and I shall only compete in drug free events. I despise builders who are on the juice. I have known two fellow bodybuilders by name who have died before the age of 40 due to a heart attack caused by usage of steroids. Stay away from the bad shit. I am proof you can get big naturally.

Edited by Forsaken_angel24, 03 August 2006 - 10:34 PM.

[Spaztic 75]

Sadly enough, a class where you lift things is the most popular course at my school. Even more sad is the fact that the only qualified instucter left two years ago, which led to three major back injuries (one of which hospitalized a guy in my class for two months), a handful of premature growth stunting, and 63% of all the male students on either meal substitute shakes, protein pills, or full out steriods (Percent based on poll taken by a senior last year for his research project). Not to mention a dodgeball competition where even the spectators left with bruised faces. So I tend to avoid it.

[Forsaken angel24]

Nothing unhealthy about protein shakes unless that is the only thing you consume as a meal. Protein pills are good but bad at the same time. They are bad because of the gelatin shell they are made of. However high school kids being on juice and all is pretty stupid.

[DX-Robert]

I'm a sprinter, so that means lower body workouts. I have absolutely no upper body strength, but I don't really care. In fact, I've been told I have a perfect build for a distance runner, yet I am best at sprints no longer than the 200. I am living proof that there is such a thing as a "weak sprinter", at least in terms of total muscular strength.

[Pineapple]

Forsaken_angel24, on Aug 3 2006, 05:24 PM, said:

...I despise builders who are on the juice...I have known two fellow bodybuilders by name who have died before the age of 40 due to a heart attack caused by usage of steroids. Stay away from the bad shit. I am proof you can get big naturally.

Amen brother. Congrats on being in such great shape.

I, unfortunately, was one of those who used performance drugs in the 80's. I wasn't a bodybuilder per se, but having gone from 110 lbs (age 18) to 145 lbs (age 19), all natural, good diet, and excellent vitamin and amino acid regimen...I was hooked on the sport of lifting. Powerlifitng.

My benchpress was stuck at 315 lbs. The state record was 345 (for my weight class). I was so fixated on bustin' that record that I put myself on a nasty (illegal) mix of Anavar, Dianabol, and Primobolan Acetate. With a shot of Deca-durobolin for good measure.

Did I accomplish those goals? No sir. I got stronger, but it was a different kind of stronger. Recovery time was superhuman...of course it was, it was steroids! But I was lucky. My nose would bleed at the slightest hint of trauma...even laughing hard popped it. I had incredible headaches and blurry vision. Worst of all, I'd get faint. Like in fall asleep standing up faint. Always when I went off the cycle.

My friend wasn't so lucky.

He never woke up after a night of partying. Cardiac arrest, they said. Everyone and his brother knew what it was.

Now, 20 years later, I'm 5'7", 170 lbs. and I feel like I'm in the best shape of my life. Not like a bodybuilder, though I still am top-heavy. But feeling great, with heart rate and blood pressure that would match many of you young 'uns. But my ethnic background (Asian-Native Hawaiian) means I have some nasty cholesterol numbers.

So yeah...cheers to you for doin' it...naturally.


Stay away from 'roids, kiddies. Uncle Piney's been there. Dumb, dumb, dumb.


-Piney-

[LastManAlive]

I only did it in gym class. I had to complete my last 1/2 credit in gym last year, and every monday, wensday and friday, we would weight train. I loved it. I think I got up to using 45 pound weights as a set weight on all the stuff we did. We did more than just curls and benchpressing, so I stayed around 45 on everything. I kinda stopped lifting weights, and I get all my lifting done via work. If I feel like I am slumping some, I'll go hoist the big builder like rock up and throw it around for 30 minutes or until I break good sweat. Never did steroids, but I was fond of protein drinks, for flavor. They would rehydrate me too for some reason. Everyone thought I was drinking peptobismal, but then my friend said he needed something to drink real bad, guzzled some off my magic juice, and got hooked to that. I still don't know what it was. My mom would buy it for me. I think it was whey, which is why I stoped drinking it, but I wasn't sure if whey came in a powder. Either way, I'm all natural at it. In the last day of gym we did nothing that would push us to our limits, and we competed to see how much we could bench and lift via legs. Since I was more developed in my leg muscles (I worked mainly on my arms and abdomine, but I virtually lifted a cows weight in my legs), I won the leg lift-a-thon. I box squated 410 pounds 5 times, where the 2nd place man (my close friend in that class) lifted the same wiehgt, but only made it 3 times. I came in 3rd in our little competition at benchpress at just under 345 5 times... I lost to a tiny teste steroid freak that benched 350 10 times and he definitelly pulled something in his ass from the strain. It wasn't his grown for he walked ok, but he hurt more when going down in a sit-up then coming up. And he had to sit on his towel in the locked room for pading.

[Forsaken angel24]

LastManAlive, on Aug 7 2006, 12:38 PM, said:

I box squated 410 pounds 5 times, where the 2nd place man (my close friend in that class) lifted the same wiehgt, but only made it 3 times. I came in 3rd in our little competition at benchpress at just under 345 5 times...

I dont know if there are any weightlifting classes in college or university but I can only see those weights being realistic in those age ranges and not in the age range of high school kids.

I remember saying I squatted 450 pounds in high school when I really only went down maybe 2 inches then came back up. I am aware of what a bos squat is but how high is the box. I can only bench 225 pounds around 8 times but that is with perfect form. (Bench press perfect form: Hold the bar around shoulder width thenb inhale as you bring the bar down untill your elbows hit 90 degrees then exhale and push back up on a slight arch.

As for Squats the most I ever did was 315 pounds and that is with perfect form.
(perfect form for squats. Bend your knees and your waist and keep going down untill your knees are at a 90 degree angle then come back up.)

My pride weights are with deadlifts and incline leg press.

Deadlifts I had four plates per side and I was able to do one with perfect form. That is around 405 pounds.
With the incline leg press I was able to do 9 plates a side which means 810 pounds. I was able to do one with perfect form.l

For the record and safety concerns you should never go for your one rep max on heavy exercises like squats deadlift and such if you are new to training. Only the experienced should do them. i ws training 5 days a week for about 2 years before I attempted these things and now that I am a certified trainer I look back and think how lucky I was not to tear something.

[nerfer34]

I'm only 13 so I can't do that much plus I'm skinny. Well I've never tried to max out. But when I go to the weight room I usually do reps of 100 on the bench press, 100 on the leg press, 85 on box squat with perfect form.

[Doom]

In weight lifting class at my school, people were very competitive. There only ever was one true weight lifting competition, but people still tried to beat each other in max lifts.

I even made the "1150 club" - if you add up your max bench, cleans, squat, dead lift, and for some reason dips (don't ask me why) and if it's over a certain number, you can make that weight lifting club. Pretty neat idea for my school. I think I'm the last person on the first board they made that covers everyone from 198X to 2006 who made that club. Apparently I'm also one of the few with a bench below 200 who made that club.

The only thing I ever was good at was legs. I was the king of legs for my weight. One of only two people in the class who could squat three times their weight. We always maintained quality in our work because a lot of people were mainly interested in training for sports (mine being track). I squated 455 legitimately. Don't think the other kids would let anyone get away with a two inch squat - they'd be laughed out of the weight room. I stopped there because that was enough for me to make the 1150 club. That and it hurt my back a lot. I won't say that I had perfect form. In fact, I'm quite sure that my poor form was what kept me below 400 in dead lift.

Towards the end of the class I was getting pretty good at cleans too, but I never got better than a 170 max. The funny part is that there is one kid in my class who cleans 225 something like 20 times continuously and real fast. He does that to train for shotput and discuss because he needs pure power. Works great for him too. He was only a sophomore and already was the best in the entire state in discus and one of the best in shotput.

I would have continued weight lifting, but my school needs me for cross country and I could stand to lose some muscle for that. Our state cross country meet has so many hills to begin with that it's probably a good idea to hit the weight room or be strong anyway. Once indoor track starts however I'll be back in the weight room.

Edited by Doom, 08 August 2006 - 12:23 PM.

[Evil]

I lift four times a week with a routine that involves a good balance of free weights and machines. Since seriously injuring my lateral tendon in my forearm in baseball, I have had to be very selective with what lifting exercises I choose to do, as it is possible for me to very easily tweak my forearm. If I were to hurt myself again by straining the tendon, it could mean that I would have to get more cortizone shots and see more specialists.

After hurting my forearm a year ago, I only got back into the gym some three or four months ago.

I encourage people to lift. It is an excellent way to challenge yourself and to enjoy time to yourself. I know some of your are younger, but theres nothing wrong with lifting light, if anything you can give yourself definition and a leaner core.

Just because you lift doesnt mean you have to be chiseled.

[nerfer34]

Yea the whole point of lifting is to challenge your self. So right when you lift there should be sweat puring from your face when your done.

There is a sophomore who can curl 425 pounds and he is only 140 pounds. Possibly on a "strength enhancer" just like good ole Barry Bonds.

[Pineapple]

Please pardon the ol' man, but why do I sense some B.S. from LastManAlive and from Nerfer 34?

"Nerfer34" said

There is a sophomore who can curl 425 pounds and he is only 140 pounds. Possibly on a "strength enhancer" just like good ole Barry Bonds.

Do a 425 lb. BICEP CURL? Have you ever seen what 425 pounds look like on an Olympic-sized bar? That's four 45s, and a 10 on EACH SIDE of the bar.

"LastManAlive" said

I came in 3rd in our little competition at benchpress at just under 345 5 times... I lost to a tiny teste steroid freak that benched 350 10 times and he definitelly pulled something in his ass from the strain.

So then, it's totally possible, given your height and weight (that you claim you are), that you can indeed bench press 345 lbs., 5 clean repetitions. But you must train an awful lot...it took me (5' 7", 145 lbs at the time) a year and a half of training 4x week to attain strength levels approaching that. That's why I juiced up.

Otherwise, I think you might have your weights mixed up. Like FA_24 said, strength numbers like that are usually at collegiate levels, or maybe the football players. Or...check your numbers again.


Forsaken, when I was in my best shape, I was warming up on the bench with 195, then stepped up in fairly large increments, usually 2-3 sets of 10 at 225, then up to 245 for 8 reps, then 275 for 6, usually peaking at 295 for 4-5 unless I felt "good" that day, then I threw on the "triple 45s" (315). I know you're capable of much more weight, but good on you for keeping excellent form and disciplining yourself to definition and proportional muscle mass. Your hard work shows.

I'm just jealous since you young ones are on your way up, and (generally) folks my age are on their way down. I'm pickin' up a gym membership just because of this thread...I'm inspired again!


-Piney-

[nerfer34]

I'm not BSin. This kid is amazing. He can drive a golf ball 390 yards too. I read this in the Boston Globe. It said he "curled 425 pounds".... I don't know maybe its wrong but this kid is jacked. It also said he did the 1200 pound thing in 3 events; beching, curling, squatting

[Forsaken angel24]

Nerfer34 the paper screwed up. A 425 pound curl is ridiculous. If this is true he is jerking/swinging/breaking his back to get the weight up.

Doom I think thats great that you guys have a different clubs with the weights. The actual clubs according to FLEX or Muscular Development are the 1000,1500,2000,2500 clubs You get these by adding up your max lifts. Max lifts are your deadlift,squat and benchpress. I can't remember if they are one rep maxes or 10 rep sets.

Piney: The competetition I entered was called Fame. They had a few categories.
The juniors (21 and under)
The open (any age, this is the one with the highest payout and biggest trophy)
The masters (40+)
The Grandmasters (50+)
The Super grandmasters (60+)
So it doesnt have to be over yet, even for the older folk.

I swear everytime I see someone who competes in the super grandmasters do a routine, I shed a tear.
It is just so very hard to put on/maintain muscle at that age and these people are just showing their sheer love/dedication for the sport.


This next bit is for anyone under the age of 14.
I would just like to strongly suggest staying away from weights untill you hit 14. It can mess with your bones and such. Also if you want to lift weights, it is doctor reccomended to just lift soup cans in the mean time.

[Evil]

Forsaken... what do you do for chest?

[Doom]

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Doom I think thats great that you guys have a different clubs with the weights. The actual clubs according to FLEX or Muscular Development are the 1000,1500,2000,2500 clubs You get these by adding up your max lifts. Max lifts are your deadlift,squat and benchpress. I can't remember if they are one rep maxes or 10 rep sets.

I agree that it was a good idea. It really challenged everyone. They also should have more clubs because here it stops at 1400. The strongest guys get 1700 - 1800. Seems to me that there should be a higher club for them too. It probably would be safer to do 10 rep sets instead of one rep maxes as well. I know a few kids other than myself were trying to make one of these clubs and either hurt themselves or nearly hurt themselves doing a big one rep max.

Those actual clubs would probably be better for me too since I'm not too great at cleans and those are absent. My bench is terrible, likely because I never really worked on it. It's disappointing to start with a 135 pount one rep max I suppose. I did at least improve my bench, but my focus definitely was on my legs.

The problem with this being in high school is that a lot of kids lie about their lifts. The gym teacher this year never took what he thought was bull and I can name several people who never made the weight lifting clubs because of that. We'd even tip him off about certain kids. He'd make them do the lift they claimed to do, which often was funny. We had a bunch of top 10 lists and those challeneged everyone too. The good thing about the top 10 lists was that you could directly challenge anyone who you thought would have lied on it... that's how I kept my name on the top of the 400 list, which was what I was training for in track. Since that's a hard race if you haven't trained for it, no one wanted to do it again and didn't risk being challenged.

I'd also have to agree that a 425 pound bicep curl is just plain impossible, especially for a 140 pound guy. I might almost be able to believe that if he didn't have any legs and worked on upper body lifts all day so he would weigh as little as possible. But 425 pounds is just so much I don't believe that's even possible for anyone. Are you sure he was doing a curl, nerfer34?

Edited by Doom, 09 August 2006 - 07:45 AM.

[Forsaken angel24]

Evil, on Aug 9 2006, 01:29 AM, said:

Forsaken... what do you do for chest?

This is part of what people pay me $60-80 an hour to learn.

I train my chest differently all the time. Stimulating different parts of the chest. I can list some of the exercises I do.

Push ups on a bosu with feet on stability ball.
Pushups with each hand on a stability ball.
Incline dumbell chest press
flat bench
Dumbell flyes with back on stability ball.
Dumbell presses on stability ball.
Cable crossovers
light cable crossovers while standing on a stability ball. (this is very advanced)
machine flyes
pushups on Bosu and making the bosu jump on the way up.
one hand on bosu and one on floor alternating pushups.
Resista-band flyes
Explosive reps.

This isnt my routine but more like some of my favorite things to do for chest.
My best thing in the gym is stability. I can jump on a stability ball from teh ground and keep my balance and many more crazy things like that. I'm gonna have to make a video soon because my friends are starting to say I'm lying with some of the shit that I do.

Edited by Forsaken_angel24, 09 August 2006 - 11:57 AM.

[LastManAlive]

Forsaken_angel24, on Aug 7 2006, 06:01 PM, said:

LastManAlive, on Aug 7 2006, 12:38 PM, said:

I box squated 410 pounds 5 times, where the 2nd place man (my close friend in that class) lifted the same wiehgt, but only made it 3 times. I came in 3rd in our little competition at benchpress at just under 345 5 times...

I dont know if there are any weightlifting classes in college or university but I can only see those weights being realistic in those age ranges and not in the age range of high school kids.

I remember saying I squatted 450 pounds in high school when I really only went down maybe 2 inches then came back up. I am aware of what a bos squat is but how high is the box. I can only bench 225 pounds around 8 times but that is with perfect form. (Bench press perfect form: Hold the bar around shoulder width thenb inhale as you bring the bar down untill your elbows hit 90 degrees then exhale and push back up on a slight arch.

As for Squats the most I ever did was 315 pounds and that is with perfect form.
(perfect form for squats. Bend your knees and your waist and keep going down untill your knees are at a 90 degree angle then come back up.)

My pride weights are with deadlifts and incline leg press.

Deadlifts I had four plates per side and I was able to do one with perfect form. That is around 405 pounds.
With the incline leg press I was able to do 9 plates a side which means 810 pounds. I was able to do one with perfect form.l

For the record and safety concerns you should never go for your one rep max on heavy exercises like squats deadlift and such if you are new to training. Only the experienced should do them. i ws training 5 days a week for about 2 years before I attempted these things and now that I am a certified trainer I look back and think how lucky I was not to tear something.

Yeah, form was not our biggest worry in gym class...it wasn't like we were truely training lik eyou for a good body, we were just lifting. But I had better form than the other guy really. He was bending and letting his knees go outward instead of letting his back come back when coming down. I was def. hurting the next day too, even what I benched was very hard, and I did feel like I came close to straining something. Like I said, we were not doing anything at all the previous day or that day until the lift-a-thon so not to pull or strain anything.

[SG Pilot]

I'm a distance runner, so I don't do much weight lifting. I do more circuits like push-ups, crunches, planks, bicycles, etc. That's what I do for the abs and up.

When I did the bench test in gym, I did 70 lbs with 9 reps, so I maxed out at 100 I think. It was a while ago and I forget.