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[z80]

Was that why-haven't-we-nerfed question directed at me or Leftnut, z80? In regards to the stock, it's pretty comfortable . . . Nerf seems to have a decent grip on ergonomics.

LEftnut, thought anyone who wants to come to our wars is welcomed. We usually have like 20 people, but now we have like ten, cause of camp and vacation. Our clan has like 30 people in it, but most are like noobs.

[Quartermaster]

I haven't been asked that, and the pistol isn't really too unwieldy. I took the handle off of it, too, which gives a more comfortable place to grip the full gun when combined than either the handle on the front or the bipod.

Where are you from, z80?

Edited by Quartermaster, 26 July 2006 - 09:13 PM.

[AODL]

Thanks for the gun porn. That is pretty big, isn't it? I wonder how long it'll take to get to northern Minnesota...?
I think this'll be like acrossbow. Shitty ranges until you mod it and... KAPOW! One helluva gun.

[pat 1st Lt]

I know you said you couldn't get any internal gun pics up until some time from now, but I was wondering if you could get some shots of the Magazines, disassembeled. I know they ahve screwson them, but can you take them apart? I'd love to see the inside (Even though it's probably not much to see).


Sincereley,
Pat

[Quartermaster]

Pat -- I attempted to disassemble the clip, but it has an interesting construction to it . . . While there are screws on it, there is also a tension clip kinda thing at the top on both sides connecting the halves. I got the screws out, but was unable to undo the clip. However, when the clip is unloaded, there is a clear view inside of it through a slot in one of the sides. It is a triple-torsion-spring setup. It anchors around the screw on the right side (when looking at it from the side with the screws), runs along the bottom to roughly the other corner, where the first torsion spring is. It then goes about halfway up and two-thirds over to become the second torsion spring, then up to the left side under the plastic part that pushes the darts up to form the third spring, and then up into the push part to form the part that it rests against. That's the simplicity of it.


I've decided that I'm going to do some stock tests before I open up the main gun, so it might take me a little while longer before I get internal pictures to everyone.

[Anima]

The Ohio Walmarts have the Longshot as well, now. No Magstrikes that I've seen yet, thus far.
I think the only reason there were any left when I visited the store was because the six remaining were on the very top shelf. *I* certainly couldn't reach them, but my 6' 9" friend could, luckily.

[munson20]

I just want to know the ranges of a standard Longshot with a standard dart!!! Please take the time to get these to everyone!!!

[Quartermaster]

Munson, your request could not have come at a more opportune time. You actually posted that while I was down in my basement with the Longshot doing range tests. I set it up with the stock fully extended with the extra clip in the storage area and the bipod out and resting on the floor and shot off 24 rounds -- 12 with the barrel extension on, 12 with it off. The 12 with the barrel extension all went over 12 feet . . . a lot of them hit shortly after 12 and bounced (thanks, hardwood floor), but they were all over 12 feet. The 12 without the extension went about 20 feet overall. They probably would have gone farther, but my basement was too short to find out . . . they kept bouncing off the stairs. Don't forget, these were all done with the new streamline darts. That's all I've got for all of you right now.

EDIT: Remember, if the ranges I posted seem short, especially in comparison to what the box says, it's because my test was done from the muzzle to impact while the gun was resting on the floor. Hasbro tests ranges by having the gun at about chest level on an average kid they want to sell Nerf products to, adding more hang time and distance to their measurements

Edited by Quartermaster, 27 July 2006 - 03:05 PM.

[sam]

Ok I just finished putting mine back together.

Ok here is the plunger tube. That little nub sticking of the reciver is what stops you from getting to the restrictors. I think you'll probably have to cut that part of the barrel of at least intially to mod the gun. The picture i took on the inside of the plunger tube didn't turn out but there is a lot of restriction, and the it looks kinda like a NF plunger tube, including a similar air restrictor to the one on the NF. I'd guess it would probably get around 50-60' without restrictors.

Here is the plunger rod. It's big, beefy, has a big, but wimpy spring, and a small o-ring. Deffinately room for improvment.

[Quartermaster]

Thanks for the internal pics, Sam. It does look quite like a Nite Finder plunger, which means if I can find the other spring that came in the pair that I opened to beef up my NF, once I open the LS, it'll be a beast.

EDIT: Can't forget to upgrade the O-ring, either. Glad I have a whole set of them lying around.

Edited by Quartermaster, 27 July 2006 - 04:21 PM.

[sam]

I don't think that would fit. The shaft of the plunger is too big for it too fit around.

[Forsaken angel24]

Perhaps a maxshot spring is in order.

[Quartermaster]

No, Sam, the spring will fit . . . It's a pretty big spring. I'd open up my NF and take a picture of it for you to prove it, but it's a powerful enough spring that it took two people to close the NF back up. Anyways, that's kinda off topic, but just an fyi

[Walter]

I purchased the Longshot (And almost a red or blue magstrike) at the WalMart in National City, CA. The Chula Vista one on Broadway doesn't have it in stock. Here is a link to a scan of the manual:


As you can see from part 8 of the assembly instructions, it was originally slated to come with sonic streamline darts; I removed the sticker by scratching it carefully with tweezers. There are five hastily removed mentions of Sonic in the manual. Bummer.

The stock darts seem to get remarkable distances angled, although the quality of the darts seem to be iffy. Fired flat it doesn't seem very impressive.

Inside the Secondary gun the air restrictor is very difficult to remove, similar to another gun, but I can't remember the name of it. Part of the Unity series.

Edited by Walter, 31 July 2006 - 07:34 PM.

[Pineapple]

"Sonic" Streamline, maybe?

I wonder out loud if they intended for those puppies to make noise, then changed the plan before production?

Maybe it's so the s.nipers wouldn't be heard from 35 feet away.




Good first post and observation, Walter. Enjoy your new Longshots (you lucky bastards)



-Piney-

[Jikman]

Sorry QuarterMaster, I missed that post last time.

Anyway, it looks good. Though, I feel more inclined to get a BBB than this for some reason. I can clip mod the BBB, and probably can get a faster ROF.

[Quartermaster]

Okay gang, couple things:

Walter - I noticed those stickers too, but didn't bother pulling them off. I belive Piney was right when he said they initially wanted sonic darts, but changed it before release. Funny thing is, though, my friend was playing with my LS, and he fired it at me from a decent distance, and since he had to aim around a railing to hit me, he continually missed me. One of them flew right by my ear, and the hole in the dart's tip caused a low whistling sound that you can only hear from close by.

Jikman - Don't worry about repeating yourself. I dunno how high of a ROF you can get on a clip-modded BBB, but if you can pull the bolt pretty quick on the LS, you can get a relatively high ROF. Rate of reload, though, once you run through both clips, is kind of iffy, since Nerf has started marketing neither extra streamlines or extra clips, which I figure as the next thing for them to do.

Edited by Quartermaster, 28 July 2006 - 01:08 AM.

[Uncle Hammer]

So my question to all you people with the internal pics and who have opened your gun up.... Can you cycle a clip/dart without the plunger tube in place?

[Forsaken angel24]

Another question too. Are these guns stefan compatible right away or what?

[moubeus5018]

These may have been answered in other threads but seen you have it ill ask you also.

1.) what bullets dose the pistol use?
2.) is the scope a scope or just a tube with crosshairs?
3.) clips and darts ARE NOT being planned to be sold seperatly at this time??
4.) is it a bitch to remove air restrictor?
5.) stefans do work right?
6.) range in practicall use(when trying to get most range by angleing) is how far?
7.) accuracy is good or bad?
8.) dose it make a good primary choice?
9.) do you see yourself useing the pistol seperatly because of size?
10.) would you or wouldnt you keep pistol on or off.
11.) too many questions?

Sorry for so many.

[sam]

Uncle Hammer: Not sure, but it may be possible
Forsaken: Not, you need to remove the ARs, and also I think you may need 2" or bigger stefans for it to work well.
Moubeus: I'll answer the questions that haven't already been answered
2. Scope= nasty crap
3. correct
4. yes
6. stock? Modded? Angled? What?
7. Good for a stock gun
8. Well have to wait until it's been modded
9. This thing is WAY too big with combined, so yes, but it's basically a crossfire
10. off
11. yes

[Quartermaster]

Forsaken - It's possible. I haven't opened it up yet, but entirely possible.

moubeus - to clarify what Sam said:
1) Any dart works in the pistol
2) The scope is just a tube with a reticle
3) At the moment, no plans to market extra clips or streamline darts
4) In the pistol, it's just as hard as removing the one in the Crossfire. In the rifle, I don't know.
5) Stefans are guaranteed to work in the pistol, and it's still iffy in the rifle
6) I'm gonna agree with Sam on this one and ask you to be more specific on the range question
7) The accuracy is pretty decent
8) It makes a good choice, but I'm not sure if it's primary material for me. That sort of stuff is subjective.
9) Once I chop the pistol out of the extension, I'm sure i'll use it separately, like another Crossfire. There is no way anyone would want to even try to run around with a three foot primary.
10) Definitely keep the pistol off. It's too unwieldy with it on, and see my answer to number 9 for more of an explanation
11) I've seen a lot more questions before, so I'm not worried

Sam - Thanks for fielding while I was at work

[munson20]

I just got the longshot!! I like it a lot. Unlike all other nerf guns, it doesn't have a very cheap, breakable feeling!!! Instead of painted on everything onto one shell, this gun has different parts. I like the feel a lot also to the gun. It is pretty heavy yet comfortable... I love it. The only bad part of the gun is the ranges, but that isn't why I got it. I am more of a collecting less intense nerfer, rather than hard core modding and playing. Bottom line is this gun will do great. It is absolutely perfect for kids!!!

[Anima]

Here's a shot of the inside of the Longshot's primary chamber, with the enormous air restrictor.



And here's the mess you'll make when you take apart a Longshot. Ugh! So many springs... Gotta take it all out to paint it though.

[Cmdrmack]

The Longshot is the baddest thing on the planet. Badder than the Power Glove. ALMOST Badder than Chuck Norris.

Heck yes, got one tonight. The thing is even cooler in person.

In spite of what sounds like a gigantimous air restrictor, when loaded and fired it has a very deep sound that my enemies will learn to fear.

By the way, the scope looks absolutely ridiculous on the Maverick.

Edited by Cmdrmack, 29 July 2006 - 03:17 AM.