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[hokiefan0705]

Here is the deal, I was at Walmart a week ago, and I saw the Lazer tag Master Blaster Gun on the other aisle of nerf. Basically, the gun is a Lazer gun with a Lazer rocket on it. I looked at the price and it was 50$ and I shreaked "Are you kidding me I can get that on Ebay For like 20 bucks!". So I went home looked on Ebay found it for 25$, and I bought it. Finally, it came in the mail and once I got it I opened it up, and took out every wire in the gun. next, I did a basic coupler mod to increase ROF. Well, here are the pics of the mod, enjoy


The box


Internals of gun, orginal was just that orange part, and a whole bunch of wires I had to rip out.


Look how big that tank is!


Trigger Sytem, Pull Back that big green handle.


Stock/pump handle. Oragne sliding part changes the stock/pump when you move it to the right.


Wood part, makes gun sturdy.


Overall gun

I Have not tested the ranges, but I think it will easily get 100ft or more. Later, I am going to make an intergration somewhere. Any questions, comments Ideas. Also I think I am the first to mod this gun what should I call it?

Edited by hokiefan0705, 18 June 2006 - 07:24 AM.

[Ronster]

How many pumps does it take to prime?

[hokiefan0705]

Well, fully maybe 15, but you really only need like 10.

[SG Pilot]

Laser tag? So its a part laser tag, part nerf gun gun?

Interesting.

[NinjZ]

You need to intagrate an AT2k Into the top barrels ASAP.

[WratH]

And integrate the Lazer Tag part back into an at2k.

woot post #200

[murakumo32]

I think it would be better to have a springer in there for added ROF. The reason being, you already have good range, and so to equal it out to be an "all-in-one super tactical nerf assault rifle of doom and pain", I would put 2 NF guts in there with breaches to have "pow pow-pow pow-pow pow" kinda thing.

[Forsaken angel24]

All you have so far is a coupler, a barrel and an air supply. (The basics)
Once you slap a few integrations in there and get ranges, then you can give it a name.
I am very glad you modded this thing. I was thinking of picking up one of these things myself.
A few questions now.
Is the Air tank larger than a titans?
How far does the firing pin pull out?
Can you bic pen mod it?
For a gun of its size I would honestly hope it can get close to a titans range.
If it could hit 200' I might have to get one.

EDIT: An inch or so? Thats awesome. The Titan only opens 1/2-3/4" after modded.

Edited by Forsaken_angel24, 18 June 2006 - 10:36 PM.

[hokiefan0705]

All you have so far is a coupler, a barrel and an air supply. (The basics)
Once you slap a few integrations in there and get ranges, then you can give it a name.
I am very glad you modded this thing. I was thinking of picking up one of these things myself.
A few questions now.
Is the Air tank larger than a titans?
How far does the firing pin pull out?
Can you bic pen mod it?
For a gun of its size I would honestly hope it can get close to a titans range.
If it could hit 200' I might have to get one.

The Titans air tank look to be a little bigger, but not by much. The firing pin pull out a good inch or so. Yes, you can bic pen mod it. I have not tested the ranges because I am busy looking for an Aitech. I will post again in like a week because I am busy with drivers ed.

Edited by hokiefan0705, 18 June 2006 - 10:30 PM.

[kaiman299]

I would suggest a Maxshot with Lefty's revolver mod on top where the lazer tag gun used to be.

[Carrtoon]

For a gun of its size I would honestly hope it can get close to a titans range.
If it could hit 200' I might have to get one.

EDIT: An inch or so? Thats awesome. The Titan only opens 1/2-3/4" after modded.

I bought one of these badboys a few weeks ago. I was going to hold off posting anything until later, but here's what I did:





I think this thing can hit 200' easily. I haven't measured the distance but look what it can do to a pop can:





Straight through it.

I have a recommendation for anyone who wants to buy this gun. Get it! This is the most powerful thing I have ever seen. My friend and I each bought one and modded them. We primed them about 30 times and after a few rounds, the valves behind the pump blew. We were dissapointed because these things were extremely powerful, but fragile.

I fixed this with a bike pump. I spliced the vinyl tubing and fitted it with a bike valve. Then I equipped the dual action bike pump and it now is primed 10 times as apposed to 30.

The adjustible stock on the gun is very helpful. My only problem as of now is that it's hard to aim. Fitting it with a scope is tricky and I haven't done it yet. Ideally, I'll be able to look down the barrel for extreme accuracy in the future. Look for progress soon.

Also, this beast is so huge, it can be integrated over and over again. I may fit the two orange barrels in the front with at2k innards. Forsaken_angel24, get this gun!!!

[kaiman299]

Just for the record, A properly singled Titan can do exactly that to a pop can.

[hokiefan0705]

Cartoon, can you show me how to do the bike pump thing. Could you put up an internal pic of what you did? Thanks

-Hokie

[Carrtoon]

Cartoon, can you show me how to do the bike pump thing. Could you put up an internal pic of what you did? Thanks

-Hokie

Sure, no problem. This is a picture of the internal splice. All I did was cut the tubing and loctite the bike valve in:



This is the hole I drilled in the side for the bike valve to come out of:



Next, take the bike valve and push it out of the hole. You may want to anchor the valve in the hole so it won't slide out. I also screwed the pump holder on the side of the gun. The pump is removable once you pump the air in the gun. I prefer just to keep it held on the side:



A pic of the modification:



And the final one:



The barrel consists of 1/2" cpvc pressed into 1/2" pvc and pressed into another layer of pvc. Next, I lathed the outside pvc down so it would nest in the orange barrel. I get the full power out of the gun as opposed to a coupler mod.

Bike pumps work wonders in any pump gun. It cuts down the pumping by about 1/3 with a good pump and you can completely bypass most of the valve systems. Imagine a 2k that is ready in one or two pumps! The bike pump I bought was about $22 and pumps both ways for double the output supposedly. The handle drops down into a T handle and is comfortable to pump. 10 pumps later and you've got one bad machine!

[SirTofu]

How can you tell if your pumping has reached the limit or not with a bike pump? Can you overpump?

[hokiefan0705]

Cartoon, have you ever thought about ripping out the wires like I have done?

Edited by hokiefan0705, 19 June 2006 - 11:14 PM.

[Carrtoon]

How can you tell if your pumping has reached the limit or not with a bike pump? Can you overpump?

I do with this what I do with my LBB. Pump it until my arm gets tired. I haven't blown a pressure chamber yet. The only problem I've had is with the valve, but that is eliminated with the bike pump replacement.

I thought about taking out all of the wires, but then wondered what the point was. It would leave holes where the electronics were and would only take off a few ounces. This thing is beefy and it should feel that way!

For accuracy, I may try to rig up a parascope. Mirrors and such. Anyone else have accuracy ideas without losing range? The barrel is 5 or 6 inches from the top of the gun, making accuracy an issue...

[Powersniper]

With what Cartoon said about the at2k... and priming it... Well acually, with my friends AT2K (which I modded), it does prime in 2-3 pumps. I got around 90' each time... Iwas using DT darts not steafans, took out the orange thing, and just wrapped the trigger thing (the wire that comes out, not the orange trigger) in hockey tape, and stuffed the little holes/pressure thing in the pump with some wet tissue instead of hotglue ( I think with the hot glue, some air can still get around it).

I'm still confused as to how everyone can shoot through soda can (or puncture them) with nerf guns. I mean how close could you be? Or are you using like metal tipped darts... I'm not sure if that's safe if so.

Anyways, you both did some hella sweet mods and the gun looks awsome to... I bet that if someone saw you pump it 10 times (in a nerf war of course) and then you turned in there genral direction, they'ed run way screaming! Then, ovbiously, you shoot them in the back and they fall to the ground cuz it's too powerful at that range
fun fun fun

Also, with anyone who either has done what they have done, or just has one- What do you think of that firing system? I mean pulling the thing forward... I would have glued on some PVC for a better way. But maybe I'm wronge...

Edited by Powersniper{}, 20 June 2006 - 12:47 AM.

[CaMbLaM]

Just wondering, is it safe to use this in a war? Will it do more than leave a welt at 10'- 15'? Also with power like that, you may want to try and add some iron sights.

[Carrtoon]

I'm still confused as to how everyone can shoot through soda can (or puncture them) with nerf guns. I mean how close could you be? Or are you using like metal tipped darts... I'm not sure if that's safe if so.

Anyways, you both did some hella sweet mods and the gun looks awsome to... I bet that if someone saw you pump it 10 times (in a nerf war of course) and then you turned in there genral direction, they'ed run way screaming! Then, ovbiously, you shoot them in the back and they fall to the ground cuz it's too powerful at that range
fun fun fun

Also, with anyone who either has done what they have done, or just has one- What do you think of that firing system? I mean pulling the thing forward... I would have glued on some PVC for a better way. But maybe I'm wronge...

Haha! That punctured can was shot with a normal stefan, only it had two pieces of slingshot ammo in it. The metal was not exposed, it was just a normal glued stefan with more wieght. The dart has to be less than an inch or it will be ruined after one shot due to the dart compressing.

I think it's fairly obvious that this couldn't be used in a war. It's too dang powerful. Personally, I never shoot myself with my guns and don't know what the damage would be if one did so. I'm also not sure if integrations would be worth it if this was illegal in a war. Why scrap two at2ks if I couldn't use it anyway?

The firing system is different. You don't pull the priming handle forward to shoot, you pull it back. When you fire a gun that has tons of compression behind it in this manner, you tend to move the gun when it is suddenly discharged, making it less accurate. The bipod I made for this gun seems to negate that movement.

In my opinion, if you want uber power, get this gun. Don't expect to use it in a war, though. Other than the fact that it's impracticle, it's got too much power and could really hurt someone. The smoke-like vapor that comes out of the barrel after the dart is fired is astounding!

I would classify this as a double shot. A cool gun, but not practical for war use.

[z80]

Well, you could always do a shotgun mod for the gun, similar to how most people do their titans.

[davidbowie]

I second what z80 said. Especially since this is MADE to be an underbarrel shotgun/grenade launcher type thing, I think it would be a waste NOT to launch large bunches of stefans out of it. Then have a high ROF gun up top. I was thinking firefly, RFR, or PC.

[Forsaken angel24]

I hate it when people ban powerful guns in wars. Just put limits on it. A Titan/laser tag gun cannot be fired unless target is 125 feet away or further depending on how wimpy your co-players are. I have a friend shoot me with almost everygun I make. This of course includes the Mongo Titan. I was shot from 25 feet and it packs a punch but isnt going to make me cry. A friend and I took turns firing at eachother with my old Micro modded Titan. From 130 feet They would hurt a bit. Maybe equal the pain as a nightfinder at close range. If a NF can be allowed and fired at close range then a Titan should be allowed and fired from 130 feet.

So I propose people start implementing the "Inside range restriction". The Titan cannot be fired if target is closer than proposed distance.

If someone breaks the inside range restriction then ban them from using the gun.

[SirTofu]

The problem isn't with getting shot in say the chest with a powerful gun. It's getting shot in the eye, even with eyewear on, it's not a thing to mess around with. Banning powerful guns is just a saftey net.

[ompa]

Forsaken, the issue is that the first time that range restriction is broken, it may be that someone's eye is gone.

~ompa