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[Carrtoon]

This eliminates the use for a ramrod. I had this idea when I was watching a court case on Court TV. The gun was a beretta:



It's a very good idea and I did the same for my nerf guns. It fits on any gun, but works the best with air-pump guns because it automatically snaps down after each shot. Here's what the attachment looks like:







Here is the most important part, the video:

Beretta attachment

It works extremely well and I'll be making many more. Keep in mind that this is just a prototype. Ideally, it would be much closer to the valve and longer for stronger guns. I will also be making a groove where the joints come together for a better seal. The PVC isn't cut in the exact center. It's cut above so it snaps into place. I have had no joint problems yet and it doesn't warp how straight the barrel is. Any quesitons?

[ompa]

How on EARTH are you getting the thing to fire? I don't see a seal between the cpvc that connects to the gun, and the cpvc where you load the darts in...

Other than that, it looks sweet! You should work on a homemade break-barrel shotty.

~ompa

[Carbon]

Very, very cool.....it's the break-barrel shotgun mod! My only question would be the durability of the nail hinge...it would seem to be the weak link. Nice use of the shape of the PVC to keep the barrel in place, as well. I think this'll find its way into homemades, as well....

[NerfMonkey]

I was just thinking "holy crap, it's a Double Shot!"

Nice. Very, very nice.

Ompa, I believe it fires because, as Carrtoon said, the PVC is cut a little above the middle so the CPVC has to be pushed a little bit to fit in there from the top so it snaps in and doesn't jiggle around and makes a seal. I think.

You come up with so much original shit, it's awesome.

[Carrtoon]

I was just thinking "holy crap, it's a Double Shot!"

Nice. Very, very nice.

Ompa, I believe it fires because, as Carrtoon said, the PVC is cut a little above the middle so the CPVC has to be pushed a little bit to fit in there from the top so it snaps in and doesn't jiggle around and makes a seal. I think.

You come up with so much original shit, it's awesome.

Hehe. Thanks. The seal isn't that great as of now. This is just the concept and I will cut a notch in each piece of cpvc and add some rubber or craft foam later on to increase the seal. It hasn't snapped off, but I suppose it's only a matter of time before it gets bumped too hard. It needs some work, but the concept is there! It's a bit hard to drill a hole in the middle of the PVC, but it's do-able.

Edited by Carrtoon, 05 May 2006 - 10:14 AM.

[Flaming Hilt]

I would think that you would want to make some kind of a slider to go over the barrel when firing (the same thing people have to do with clips (which is one reason why they're so hard to make)). In which case, I would just use a breach mod.

I don't mean to be shooting down your idea, but it just seems illogical to have to worry about hinges and seals when you could just do a breach. Just my opinion, though.

Otherwise, I think it's pretty cool. It seems like you have a way to keep the air seal working. Okay, so I lied: since you got it to work, it's really cool. You have some sweet ideas.

[Carrtoon]

I would think that you would want to make some kind of a slider to go over the barrel when firing (the same thing people have to do with clips (which is one reason why they're so hard to make)). In which case, I would just use a breach mod.

I don't mean to be shooting down your idea, but it just seems illogical to have to worry about hinges and seals when you could just do a breach. Just my opinion, though.

Otherwise, I think it's pretty cool. It seems like you have a way to keep the air seal working. Okay, so I lied: since you got it to work, it's really cool. You have some sweet ideas.

Thanks and I completely understand. I saw a cool gun and had to try the idea. It's kind of like the Crossfinder. The NF will suit you just fine. It's got the same performance as the Crossfinder (by the way, it got 95' flat today) and you don't have to struggle with it. It's just the Crossfinder can fit in a holster better! Ooo boy! And it's a challenge. My goal is to beat each challenge that arises.

Anyway, the whole point of this mod was so I didn't have to use a ramrod for my LBB. I'll make another, try to fix the seal, and get some more results out with ranges or range losses. I've never tried the breech mod on any of my guns because it has been done before. New ideas are always neat to see even if there is some explaining to do. *End of mumbling*

[Flaming Hilt]

Nice work with the crossfinder, by the way. I thought about doing it but I decided just to have a NF for $6 and not get another crossfire for $20.

That's an LBB? I can't really tell from the movie, I just watched a couple seconds since it was being slow to load. In that case, another thing I'd try and fix would be the dart distance from the pressure source. I've never really understood the technicalities of that problem but it certainly does decrease range a little. Maybe just have a section of the barrel (close to the pressure source) that you can pull out -- kind of like a re-usable irremovable clip, I guess.

Or just make the whole barrel fun like that.

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Anyway, the whole point of this mod was so I didn't have to use a ramrod for my LBB.

Not a bad idea. Playing with the neighbors (who are actually surprisingly good -- either that or I'm just rusty ), I find nobody really wants to use the ramrod guns... either that or they make it their secondary. Thus, I think I'm going to try some kind of a grav-feed clip system with my LBB... cut a hole in the top and stuff the mag in there. Anyways, done hijacking the thread now.

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New ideas are always neat to see even if there is some explaining to do.

Well put. And you certainly have plenty of new ideas. And they're all awesome (so far at least... ).

[Carrtoon]

Nice work with the crossfinder, by the way. I thought about doing it but I decided just to have a NF for $6 and not get another crossfire for $20.

That's an LBB? I can't really tell from the movie, I just watched a couple seconds since it was being slow to load. In that case, another thing I'd try and fix would be the dart distance from the pressure source. I've never really understood the technicalities of that problem but it certainly does decrease range a little. Maybe just have a section of the barrel (close to the pressure source) that you can pull out -- kind of like a re-usable irremovable clip, I guess.

Or just make the whole barrel fun like that.

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Anyway, the whole point of this mod was so I didn't have to use a ramrod for my LBB.

Not a bad idea. Playing with the neighbors (who are actually surprisingly good -- either that or I'm just rusty ), I find nobody really wants to use the ramrod guns... either that or they make it their secondary. Thus, I think I'm going to try some kind of a grav-feed clip system with my LBB... cut a hole in the top and stuff the mag in there. Anyways, done hijacking the thread now.

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New ideas are always neat to see even if there is some explaining to do.

Well put. And you certainly have plenty of new ideas. And they're all awesome (so far at least... ).

Thanks. No, that isn't an LBB in the movie, it's a singled at3k. It has two consecutive shots because of the stock I made for it, making it a very nice gun for this attachment.

Gravity fed clips haven't sparked my interest either. It doesn't seem to work that well and I haven't put much time into it. Maybe I'm just not doing something right...

[rotoryfan]

hmmm... you could make it auto-reloading when it pops open, by adding a piece of PVC with a spring in the back that would hold 3 or so darts, and atatching it to form a junction between it and the cool baretta breach you made. if you could figure out a way for it to close when you close the barreta breach (that's what seems to be an appropriate name for this awsome mod) then it would get even better ROF's! maybe you could create ridges to act as a guide for a chopped PVC cap, so that when you close the baretta breach, it pulls the cap down, thus keeping the darts from launching out of the "PVC clip" hm... this could be insane...

*EDIT* I noticed that it snaps down, as you said, when you fire it. does it still fire straight? I didn't see anything leave the barrel at all...

Edited by rotoryfan, 05 May 2006 - 08:46 PM.

[Flaming Hilt]

adding a piece of PVC with a spring in the back that would hold 3 or so darts

Sounds like a tube clip to me. Not a bad idea. Perhaps put a vertical plate on the breach to keep the darts in the clip, and then when you pop up the beretta, the barrel (duh) would allow the dart into... well... the dart could then advance into the barrel.

Two problems I see (that my brain is currently devising upon (that doesn't sound right... but... uh...)): Reloading the clip, and letting in just one dart at a time.

I suppose you could just make a one-dart clip, but I'm not sure if that'd be worth it. On the other hand, your clip can be as long as the [barrel-beretta].

Making the clip removable would solve the reloading problem.