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#1 davidbowie

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 09:47 PM

After numerous failed attempts at making nerf slings, I decided to take a slightly different route, and attach a string directly to a stefan. After fooling around with them, I think they might actually be useful in wars.

I was going to post a picture, but the lighting was horrible, and you don't really need one to understand it. It's just a stefan, with some extra weight, and a ~2' string attached to the back. To "fire", just hold it by the end of the string and let it hand down behind your shoulder, then snap it forward in an arc, letting go at the point where it goes in the right direction. After a few practice throws, you can get somewhat accurate with them.

The reason I think they would be good as a holdout weapon is that you can throw a very large amount of them at the same time with decent power, for a shotgun effect, without even needing a gun. There's no priming or loading, just grab and throw. I'm currently working on a back sling that attaches to a normal gun strap, which would hold the foxtails in ready position, so all you would have to do is reach back, grab, and throw.

Performance is actually pretty good. I would guess that they can reach 60 feet at the very least.
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#2 NirvanaScorpion

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 10:03 PM

It sounds like a good idea, like it would be a minor strapback while holding a gun, I do get what youre saying vbut without really being shot would it count?

EDIT: Nevermind, I fully undertsand now, nice basic idea surprised noone (published) it yet. Still some questions remain though.

Edited by NirvanaScorpion, 12 April 2006 - 10:04 PM.

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#3 KnightValor

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 10:36 PM

Decent idea!!! Something anyone could do, yet nobody thinks of it do to pure simplicity. I like it!


My only question is about the grab 'n' throw idea with the pouch. Wouldn't the strings like, fall somewhere inaccessable, or mix into a big lump, forcing you to use the shotgun effect even if you don't want to??


Let me know how it turns out... It seems that combat situations would move the strings to where you might as well just have them in a pocket, or on a belt, hanging by a weak clip on your string.


Still, good idea. I bet this could save people all the time as far as close combat, tight situations go.
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Posted 12 April 2006 - 10:52 PM

Unless you're a baseball pitcher, I bet it'll be very inaccurate.
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#5 davidbowie

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 10:54 PM

Well, the strings would get tangled, but my back-sling won't just be one big tube. It will probably be a bunch of individual tubes, one or two foxtails in each. I also plan to add smaller slices of FBR to the backs of the strings, to keep them right at the ends of the tubes so they won't get tangled. If all goes well, I'll make another one for my other shoulder, and have a decent ROF going.

Vicious, you're kinda right, but you don't have to be a baseball pitcher to hit a human-sized area with these, especially at a relatively close range.

Edited by davidbowie, 12 April 2006 - 10:55 PM.

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:03 PM

I'm just glad you didn't name them "tampons". ;)
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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:21 PM

lmao...



You should just take paperclips (the triangle ones) & put them on a belt, with the darts hanging from the string.


If you are really keen on the over the shoulder thing, try tieing a loop at the end and simply make a thing of hooks that go over your shoulder, they wouldn't tangle and could be easily accessable. Make sure the hooks are more like very thin U's than V's though, or you at 100% risk of the darts falling out whenever you sneeze. ;)
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#8 NirvanaScorpion

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 09:28 AM

Wow slug <_< , But he added the fact there would b extra weight so if youre not a baseball pitcher you could add some weight, just enough to make it not harmful.

Edited by NirvanaScorpion, 13 April 2006 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 09:17 PM

Good idea, but sort of complicated with the string and the whole shoulder harness thing.

Why not just over-weight stock mega's to get the same effect?

I've done that before for some H2H stuff: throwing darts were allowed, so I just took some stock megas, glued some wide-headed screws (With the stems chopped off) in, and covered the head in plasti-dip to be a bit more forgiving.

The string idea is rather novel, but that might actually make them harder to aim. Farther flying, oh yes, but much more difficult to use, in my oppinion.

Tommorrow I'll go make some and fling them at the cats, and compare them to my over-weighted Megas.




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#10 KnightValor

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 11:26 PM

Tommorrow I'll go make some and fling them at the cats, and...

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You're joking...



Well, it probably makes good practice!




It probably won't matter much, 'cause I mean, how hard is it to dodge a dart someone throws at you? As for the foxtails, faster + more unpredictable = harder to dodge = higher accuracy
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#11 davidbowie

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 11:31 PM

It probably won't matter much, 'cause I mean, how hard is it to dodge a dart someone throws at you? As for the foxtails, faster + more unpredictable = harder to dodge = higher accuracy


Well, not quite, but that's why these are holdout weapons. If you've used up all your shots and there's someone coming in with no time to reload, you can just flip out one of these. At least, that's the idea. This wasn't exactly a high-budget research project, it was a late-night "what if".
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