GeneralPrimevil, on Apr 9 2006, 03:56 PM, said:
Hey CS, in my opinion your first design is far superior. I dunno why, but it probably is my inability to conceive how that latest one works.
The first one may not work for the following reason.
The cannon will be pushing the dart from the rear, but the front part of the dart will be in contact with the inside of the barrel. The result is that the accelerating force and friction resistance might set the granade off as soon as it's fired. The cardboard tube, in order to not be moved to the open position by friction with the barrel, needs to open towards the front of the dart rather than towards the rear.
All of the darts function from the same principle. One part of the dart comes to rest before the other. Here's what happens after they run into something or the part the chute is attached to is decelerated.


The first one will need some weights added to the cardboard tube "door".
The second one might work best because the part that decelerates last has more weight. Both could be tested quite easily by simply throwing them.
When I'm not so busy I might make a few of these out of pipe insulation, FBR, and scrap plastic.
taita_cakes said
The only dangerous end of a film canister is the ends. Pad them out and you're set.
That's assuming it's flying straight with weight balanced towards the front. Before the chute opens, a cylindrical projectile that's not spinning or drag corrected is just going to tumble. If you fire any amount of hard material from a gun that you want to be "safe" you MUST encase the projectile in a hefty layer of foam AND provide an ample amount of surface area to divide the load over.
Flaaming Hilt said
Plunger guns... maybe. The idea behind a plunger is more to move the air around than to pressurize it.
They build up pressure behind the dart to overcome friction. If the plunger gun can't build up pressure behind the dart then the dart isn't going to go anywhere.
Edited by CaptainSlug, 09 April 2006 - 11:03 PM.
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