Realistic Ranges
#1
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:10 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#2
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:17 PM
QUOTE (Arcanis @ Apr 9 2005, 12:02 AM) |
When I insert a dick, nothing happens. |
#3
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:19 PM
I dunno. One time three years ago my barometric pressure skyrocketed and my darts would not break the 50ft mark any more often than a male human gives birth to a cat.
Another time, when the pressure fell, I was getting some incredible ranges with my BnA (farther than my singled AT3k was getting), up until the point of it sending the handle through the back of the piston.
Would barometric pressure or atmospheric pressure (same thing, really) make that much of a difference?
#4
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:21 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#5
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:24 PM
QUOTE (Arcanis @ Apr 9 2005, 12:02 AM) |
When I insert a dick, nothing happens. |
#6
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:25 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#7
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:26 PM
Check all your barrel seals, and your plunger seal. I actually went overboard. I replaced the spring and added a whole new plunger head to get a better seal. Also, I added some bungees. I wonder how long the thing'll last, but I've reinforced most of the crucial parts.
~ompa
#8
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:28 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#9
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:38 PM
EDIT: Yes, I use a breech barrel.
~ompa
Edited by ompa, 03 April 2006 - 09:38 PM.
#10
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:40 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#11
Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:59 PM
~ompa
#12
Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:09 PM
QUOTE |
Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were captured by hillfolk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever. |
#13
Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:20 PM
Website: www.freewebs.com/teamstealthnerf
-Check it out and vote in our poll!
#14
Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:54 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#15
Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:01 PM
Although how the hell did you link the crayola and the brass?
~ompa
Edited by ompa, 03 April 2006 - 11:01 PM.
#17
Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:05 PM
When you say semi loose, do you mean, sliding down to the bottom, or able to push down the barrell easily?
Also, should the removeable barrell that fits into the stable barrell be pretty tight, or tight enough it wount slide off. Also, should the dart be loose in the removable barrell, or jsutstable enough to stay wihtout moving?
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#18
Posted 06 April 2006 - 04:11 PM
You're using the stock barrel!
You may have used brass, or a crayola barrel, or whatever you want, but unless you open up your gun, take out all the yellow tubing, cut a whole in the front of the gun casing, and put your barrel there, you will not be getting past 60 feet anytime soon.
I may be wrong, but from what I've read, and I am sorry if this is wrong, but you still have the yellow barrel on the top of the gun, where it was originally.
I'd suggest this mod, and trying Level 2 to begin with. If you think you can pull it off without breaking your gun, go for level 3 or 4.
http://www.nerfhq.co...iew.php?p=25445
The level two section of this mod will get you aquainted with your Crossbow's internals and improve your ranges to, probably 70 feet.
If you think you're up to it, go for level 3 or 4, and you should see your Crossbow either break, or fall just short of the century mark.
I am sorry if you have replaced the stock barrel with something. Just, from reading the thread through, you gave no evidence that you had done anything other than a crayola and some brass into the stock, yellow barrel.
EDIT: No, you said you removed the yellow tubing and yellow barrel. Sorry. I guess I didn't read well enough (though all the question marks don't help make it clearer).
But, maybe the problem is just a bad seal.
Post several, detailed picks, in the best focus you can get, from different angles (looking down the barrel, lokking from the left, looking from the right, etc.)
Also, here's another good X-Box mod: http://nerfhaven.com/mods/rawray_xbow/
Really, the best thing you can do right now is try to get up pictures.
Possible problems off the top of my head: bad plunger seal, sticky plunger head, broken spring, bad coupler-barrel seal, bad dart-fit, barrel off-centered (Causing bad accuracy, which is misdiagnosed as range problems), badly placed coupler,
cracked plunger casing, dirt/burs in the barrel.
That's a fairly comprehensive list of possible problems, that could all be diagnosed via good quality pictures.
Sorry to have apparently annoyed you. I didn't mean to come across as condescending: other people have done this before. By this I mean thinking that by sticking a piece of brass down a crossbow's stock barrel, it will magically shoot 100+ feet.
Sorry if I offended.
But, pictures would help clarify greatly.
Sincereley,
Pat
Edited by {SF3G}pat 2nd Lt., 06 April 2006 - 04:29 PM.
#19
Posted 06 April 2006 - 04:16 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#20
Posted 06 April 2006 - 05:37 PM
A couple other comments:
1) Are you still using the stock spring? To get the most out of the x-bow you need to either replace the stock spring with a stronger one and reinforce the interior or add either rubber bands or a bungee cord to maximize the power of your shots.
2) You also say you are using about 5 inches of brass for your barrel, correct? If you want to do a breach style barrel my suggstion is you use a 12" brass barrel in configuration like in this mod. A short barrel will not maximize the power you can get out of the gun, and the ability to put the dart in the back end of the barrel without a ramrod is really useful.
Edited by J_cobbers, 06 April 2006 - 05:39 PM.
Don't forget to eat your meat based vegetable substitute children.
#21
Posted 06 April 2006 - 05:51 PM
I know not what WWIII wil be fought with; however, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones...
#22
Posted 06 April 2006 - 06:09 PM
Why do I get bad ranges?
Because I used five inches of brass when I only use the first 2 1/2 inches with a stock dart!
Use stefans, and either push them all the way down the barrel, or make a breech-modded barrel, and push them in from the back.
Try this or this
for good tips on how to make good stefans.
Sincereley,
Pat
#23
Posted 06 April 2006 - 06:54 PM
This totally refutes your previous post (where you claimed not to be an idiot). Besides showing that you really don't understand the problem (Which by the way is exactly what I said I though it was in my last post and apparently what pat 2nd Lt. has figured out as well) you are still calling nerf darts 'bullets'. We play with darts, real guns use bullets. Bullets are metal projectiles acclerated from a fire arm usually at supersonic speeds. Nerf darts are subsonic foam projectlies fired with non explosive air pressure out of plastic 'blasters'.No, I extended the barrell wiht brass, and I shoot dart tag bullets. I dont put them down the barrell, i just put them in the front, besides, the rubber wont fit down the barrell. Since I am new to nerf, I havent made a breech barrell or something like it where you put the dart down the barrell, thats why I am asking so many questions.
Just because you haven't made a breaching barrel and are new to nerf does not excuse your inablility to understand the basic principle that darts that are closer to the source of air pressure will fly farther than darts which are not. By having the dart a few inches from the end of the plunger tube rather than right next to it at the very back end of the barrel means not as much pressure builds up when you fire the dart, which means you get a worse range.
If you want to keep using dart tag darts then remove your brass barrel and make breaching one out of 6-12 inches of 1/2'' PVC. and a coupler attached to the plunger tube. The darts will fit all the way to the base of your barrel and you'll find an immediate increase in your range. Since you haven't said anything about replacing the spring or adding rubber bands / bungee cords, I'm going to assume that you haven't done so, which further explains why your gun isn't getting good ranges.
Don't forget to eat your meat based vegetable substitute children.
#24
Posted 06 April 2006 - 09:02 PM
hope this helps
#25
Posted 06 April 2006 - 09:06 PM
I get 120'+ with my crossbow, and I measured it exactly.when people say that they are getting 100' with a cross bow am almost positive that they angle the gun up a lot. i took me a while to figure that out but try shooting up more like about at a 45 degree angle
hope this helps
Edit: And it was on a level shot...and im only 5 ft
Edited by lilsniper, 06 April 2006 - 09:06 PM.
Website: www.freewebs.com/teamstealthnerf
-Check it out and vote in our poll!
2 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users