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#1 Carrtoon

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:29 PM

This is valuable for guns with long barrels. You want to locate off of the barrel, not the body of your gun. Also, it stabilizes very nicely. Personally, I like scopes for accurate guns, and this one is definately that.

I know this is not logical for a war, but, seeing as I have never been to one, it's great for target practice!

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And yes, the cpvc running to the sight is plugged!

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:32 PM

Looks good, I have no beef with the scope, but to prevent any air loss you might want to run some brass through the T coupler and dremel down the ridges inside the T coupler if you need to. What are you using for inner barrel?
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:33 PM

Wow...I like it...and im not that big of a fan of guns with scopes. What are the ranges on that? mine gets good ranges and in thinking of doing this. You should get it painted next, to complete the overall look. ^_~



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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:39 PM

The small 2'' cpvc is 1/2'' and is completely plugged with hot glue. Is that what you mean by inner barrel?

Ranges are about 180' with 15 pumps. I measured that a while ago, but I may re-check. 20 pumps is about max for me.

Yes! It will be painted black soon. I need to get cpvc glue and glue everything tight. Then it will be flat black like the barrel.

Just in case anyone wants to know, that scope is only $16 at Walmart. It has a 3x-10x zoom and works nicely!
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:43 PM

How do you load that gun? Does it have a removable barrel for breach loading? Or must you use a ramrod to push the dart down the barrel? This has nothing to do with the scope..I'm just curious. But very nice job with that scope/gun. It looks very stylish.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:45 PM

HA...I have that scope on my A-Bolt!

I use scopes on my Nerf guns. I sue air rifle scopes because they are able to withstand more shock with the doulbe-braced crosshair instead of single like on firearm scopes.

Good idea with the cantilever. When I get a 12ga., I'm getting a rifled barrel with a cantilever mount, because I can.

Edit: That's a shitty photo of my rifle, so here's another pic, but still shit for the rifle due to bad lighting. I'll get a daylight photo eventually...

Anyway, my scope is made by Optronics, what is the brand of yours?

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:48 PM

Thanks. I load it with a ramrod. I've got no reason to rush, so I don't. The nice part about it is that it can be removable or rotated. The best position in my opinion for this gun is to rotate the scope 90 degrees so it sits on the side. That way, I can rest the pumping handle on my shoulder and look through the sight comfortably. Try it!

In this particular mod, I have it glued to the body. This gives me maximum accuracy...

Hey, where did you get your bipod?!!

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:52 PM

I got my bipod from Gander Mountain for $45. It is height adjustable for prone shooting, from 9" to 13".

Anyway, in wars here where I live (midwest Michigan), scopes come in very handy since shots are generally made at ranges of over 80 ft. with homemade guns.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 07:32 PM

Update

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and for all you *long range shooters*!

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Look better?
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:10 PM

That looks really nice. The black did it good.

Do you have any plans on extending the back of the gun so as to increase comfort of the user?

I will might be attempting this for a SOBR-variant that I need to make for MidMI. LBBs cost what, $5 less than AT3ks? By the way, how long is that barrel?

Oh yeah, I can barely see that speck of target, even though the magnification ring is maxed out at 16x... :w00t:

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:42 PM

How much eye relief does that scope have?

(To those who haven't a clue what I meant, it's the distance from the scope end to the front of the eye, to have a clear picture, otherwise you just see black. If you don't know still what I mean, you don't own a real rifle scope.)

And how does that affect your ability to hit a moving target at, say, 100 feet (usual standard for "sniepers" (spelling deliberate)). For the most part, every little twitch is amplified thusly, and it must be hard to take a bead on a moving target (like a nerfer charging you).

I know you said you haven't used it in a Nerf war yet, and it's primarily for targets (and maybe pesky neighborhood cats), but there are some who genuinely think that a scope and bipod makes a sharpshooter, in an average (e.g. YANO or Apoc) Nerf war. I could just imagine someone trying to be a "snieper" against the Four Horsemen with angry crossbows (if they indeed could be angry).

But it sure looks sharp, Carrtoon. Me likey.

And Primevil's A-Bolt rocks. I'm stuck between a Ruger 10/22 and an old AMT .22 WMRF semiauto (stainless w/ composite stock). The birds are infiltrating this place and it's time for "war".


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#12 Carrtoon

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:48 PM

The overall barrel length is about 2'. The usable length is about 13". I'm thinking about a stock, but haven't really tried anything yet. The tube I mounted the scope on might work and then connected to the bottom of the handle, but it might interfere with pumping. That is the lone thing I don't like about the gun. If you didn't see what I wrote before, try turning the gun 90 degrees. Rest the pumping handle on your shoulder. This is actually quite comfortable. If you recall the pic I posted about the silencer, you can see that. LBBs cost $10 here, the same as at3ks. (the scope only zooms to 10x.)

To answer Pineapple, the scope can be a pain, especially with glasses. A small movement will turn the sight black. I haven't tested it with moving objects, and I still need to dial it in a bit better, but will soon. I'm also working on an easy-to-make bi-pod. You make a good point. I can't see this as an effective single weapon in a war. Have it pumped before a round starts, take one shot, and ditch it. That's all it's good for at the moment.

And yes, GeneralPrimevil, your gun is awesome!
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:04 PM

How do you get 20 pumps into that thing? Did I miss something? Nice gun!
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:48 PM

I wish I had a better picture of that weapon. I tell you what, just for you guys, I will bring it out into daylight tomorra and take a pic of it...in the sunlight so every detail is visible. Oh yeah, it used to shoot great (<1MOA). That was last year. The only time I took it out this year it was okay, but needed to be tweaked for a slight (<4mph) cross wind. Then the wind started going at a 17mph constant with a highest gust of 36 mph. Yeah, that was a fun drive home. Luckily it wasn't me driving...
I only got to put 16 rounds through it and 25 through my Winchester 69A (.22LR), but I also got a few small game rounds (shot size 4-8 for those of you non-Michiganders) through a 12ga when the wind was really going. No real rifles that day, only rimfires and a shotty. I might have to break out a .25-20 come later in April...maybe even up it to a 6.5mm Swiss. That thing is from like WWII man...I think I'll take a video camera for you guys then.

Anyway, back to on-topic. You might be able to lock that pump handle back somehow (pin through a hole against the back of the gun?). That, when I remember usign one of these last summer, seemed to be a good LoP. Then agian, it wasn't really locked back and I didn't have a sight on it...

I don't have too much of a problem focusing on a moving target with a 4x. Anything higher than that would be a bit...odd. That is, unless the range were farther than say, 70ft.

I'd laugh if someone had a bipod in one of my wars. However, if they were on a roof, then I'd see differently. Bipods are fun though, except when trying to get a shot off as quickly as possible. It takes too much time to adjust them.

Oh yeah, by 16x I meant for long-range shooters. Seriously, looking down a 1500yd range is amazing. If you have yet to do that, I recommend you do so sometime before you even think that using a .30-06 at 400yds is far. 1000yds is stretching it for the ol' 7.62x63mm really. Did I mention I'm gonna pick up an 8-32x40mm scope for that A-Bolt eventually with a two-piece Leuopold QR mount and medium rings? Just so you know, that .30-06 wasn't mine, and I didn't get to shoot it. I was heavily disappointed. Then agian, just looking down that massive range was exhilerating just thinking about it...

I think more of that post was about firearms than Nerf guns...
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:10 PM

Nah, sparked my interest! My whole reason for nerfing is that my dad won't let me touch a BB gun, let alone a rifle! I'd love to shoot at a firing range, but I'm not aloud. I'd love to see some pics of your gun also.

That idea for the handle of the LBB as a stock sounds promising. It may be a bit flimsy, but will probably work. If you didn't notice, I flipped around the handle so my face rests on the rounded part of the handle. I'll work on the stock/handle and post soon...

20 pumps will give you a workout if you don't have much muscle like me! I could probably sqeeze some more out, but I don't want plastic shrapnel in my chest!

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:30 PM

Unless you plugged the over pressure release valve on it, you should max out at anywhere from 10 to 15 pumps.

As far as I know, to plug the OPRV on the LBB involves taking apart the airtank and sealing it back together.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:34 PM

I did this in early feb:

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 02:49 PM

Were you actually able to get a zero with that thing? Or does it not group well, like a new air rifle...

Okay Piney and Carrtoon, I just had to make more gun porn (the rifle isn't as naked as it was now. It has a sling...) for you guys...the whole album is here.
Man, I need to get a new scope. That way I can use that one with a Nerf gun, or my .25-20 levergun...I think I hijacked this topic almost. :ph34r: Oh yeah, I have audio of iit dry-cycling...
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#19 Carrtoon

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 10:09 AM

Were you actually able to get a zero with that thing? Or does it not group well, like a new air rifle...

Can you explain, I'm not sure what you mean by that...(awesome pics!)
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 10:41 AM

Are you able to establish a repeatable placement for the crosshair within the scope? As in, were you able to move the windage and elevation screws (under those two caps towards the middle of the scope) to get the crosshair where it is supposed to be in order to get repeatable results, preferably having the dart land within an inch at, say, 40ft of where the crosshair was indicating?

Or does the LBB, when fired three/five times in a row, not give a noticeble "group" of dart impact points?

New air rifles don't shoot groups out of the box. It usually takes about 500 or so pellets.
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#21 Carrtoon

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 05:25 PM

It's not that bad, actually. I was just shooting it today with different ammo to see which is best and it was consistent. Then I shot straight up in the air for kicks. Man this thing is powerful!
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 06:58 PM

I love the scope, it looks awesome, I just have a few questions:

1.) How does your loading system work. Breech barrell or do the darts slide down?

2.) How tight are the darts you use in the barrel? Do tighter darts make this a better gun?

3.) What types of darts do you use? Are they stefans or Nerf darts?
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:21 PM

Thanks. Just a ramrod. I don't need speed right now. I may come up with something like my BBB soon.

The darts aren't tight like stock darts. They fit nicely, but not loose either. Just perfect.

Stefans are what I use with at least 4 BBs. Any less, and I loose range. This gun would explode stocks and I wouldn't be using a 1' barrel...

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