#51
Posted 10 July 2003 - 10:04 AM
American Automakers tell their market where their cars are being exported to and imported from all the time. It is basically common knowledge to anyone American out there that their car isn't made and assembled in america. I might also add an example A to my argument: My Plymouth says "Made and Assembled in Canada" right on the door. If that's American automakers trying to be sneaky and underhanded... well, let's just say they do a shitty job of it and whoever their fooling is a mass of fucking morons who don't know what it means anyway.
And to further continue my earlier argument;possibly I wasn't clear. I meant to state that people don't care exactly where the car was built as much as who developed and designed it, and who's seeing the revenues from it. So when people "Buy American" their dollars are going mostly to the company who developed and designed the vehicle more than the people who assembled it (and I'm sure the assembly factories are owned by americans, just manned by canadians/mexicans). I think that's a little more important to your average consumer than where it was built, though maybe I am speaking for too many people here.
I still think that "nothing is built anywhere" argument is silly and pointless because truly nothing is built in the country you would expect. An American car is not built here, a japanese car is not built there, an american computer never has american components, american consumer electronics have all foreign parts as well. It's really just silly because everyone knows it and there's nothing we can really do about it besides support activists and the allmighty labor union who hasn't done jack shit about the problem besides get sweatshops mostly shut down. I think the only thing that I ever purchase knowing that it was manufactured and assembled in America is a damn cheeseburger. Of course, I can buy American guitars knowing that they are built here and are made up of 95% american parts, so I guess that's one other thing.. but for the most part, it's all mostly a facade.
I"m sorry I touched a sensitive nerve for you there Julie, but my point simply stated is: When I discuss car manufacturer's with the morons who come into my store for car stereos, they refer to cars as "American" and "Japanese" and "European" and 99% could give a shit where the car was actually build and/or assembled. I've gotten maybe about two customers ever who even mentioned the fact that their "American" car was built elsewhere, and both were older wealthy folk who could give a fuck about where their money is going. The rest of the auto enthusiast crowd simply uses those labels to differentiate between styles and trends used by the manufacturer's.
#52
Posted 10 July 2003 - 04:30 PM
Spoon and myself, well, we'll continue to dream about GTO's (which are indeed rebadged Australian GM Holden Monaro's with wicked exhaust systems), and while the debate was going on, I called the local auto shop to get a new exhaust system for the truck...Flowmasters. Vroom-vroom.
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#53
Posted 10 July 2003 - 08:50 PM
I'll have you all know however, that I am blazing through "Auto Repair for Dummies", which is actually a really good book, and so I'll hopefully be able to CONTRIBUTE to the next heated automotive discussion.
So there.
#54
Posted 10 July 2003 - 09:05 PM
#55
Posted 11 July 2003 - 09:06 AM
BTW, has anyone heard of the Saleen line of cars, and i know that they are like the SVT line, because they alter cars, and they also make them VERY powerful. i wish i could get a Saleen Mustang so badly!
#56
Posted 11 July 2003 - 09:32 AM
#57
Posted 11 July 2003 - 01:22 PM
You find me a car under 40,000 with 350 hp. The SVT Cobra Mustang is remarkably fast for its cost.Yeah, the only problem with the Saleen Mustang is that unfortunately it is still a Mustang, and still one of the slowest sports cars around.
The Saleen S7 has got to be one of the sweetest cars ever. Its not modified, its their own model.
#58
Posted 11 July 2003 - 06:03 PM
#59
Posted 11 July 2003 - 08:59 PM
And yes, the 2004 GTO is a remake (in spirit anyway) of the popular GTO line from the late 60's, early 70's. I'd get one of those, but I want things like air conditioning, anti-lock breaks, and airbags. You know, frivolous things.
#60
Posted 12 July 2003 - 12:42 AM
VACC
~I can say FUCK here~
#61
Posted 12 July 2003 - 03:19 AM
Its a package deal, it comes with the Daisy rims and the rainbow neon underlights.I heard the new beatles come with condom deposit slots so you don't clutter the car up fucking you gay lover in the ass.....isn't that interesting...
VACC
~I can say FUCK here~
#62
Posted 12 July 2003 - 09:17 PM
Well, that Motor Trend test was raced against a regular corvette, now had they wanted to race to cars that were equal, they would have raced the corvette Z06 against it, which would have blown it the fuck away. They raced the Z06 against a Viper and they pretty muched measured up equal. The Z06 goes for about $50,000, so it isn't far off. A regular corvette goes for about $30,000 (depending), so it wasn't exactly an equal match up. Now don't get me wrong, the higher vipers would dust the Z06, but the bottom one isn't too fast.
Oh yeah, have I mentioned that Ford sucks cock yet? Well, If I haven't, I totally meant to. Ford must be the worst american car in production... absolute shit on every angle.
#63
Posted 13 July 2003 - 09:26 PM
*starts up truck, smokes tires in driveway*
Yeah, not bad. Oops. Better not do that anymore or I'll need new tires, too.
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#64
Posted 13 July 2003 - 10:26 PM
~Spoon
#65
Posted 14 July 2003 - 02:09 PM
#66
Posted 14 July 2003 - 10:49 PM
The recent Ford truck commercial sure uses visual cues to give the illusion of gargantuan loads...but that's market hype. I'm just jealous 'cause I can't afford neither a GTO nor an F-350.
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It's to bad you live in hawaii I bet there are not many wars there.Wait what am I saying<b> you live in hawaii you lucky bastard.</b>
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#67
Posted 15 July 2003 - 10:43 PM
I don't even want to know how we got here...I heard the new beatles come with condom deposit slots so you don't clutter the car up fucking you gay lover in the ass.....isn't that interesting...
VACC
~I can say FUCK here~
#68
Posted 17 July 2003 - 10:17 AM
#69
Posted 17 July 2003 - 11:39 AM
Pineapple: i read a few years ago that, in a booklet from a car show, the f-350 superduty could tow up to about six tons.
#70
Posted 17 July 2003 - 04:13 PM
Hah. That's actually funny.I don't even want to know how we got here...
#71
Posted 17 July 2003 - 05:51 PM
True dat, and that sucker is some BIG too. I pulled up next to one here on the island and my F-150 looked like a Ranger by comparison. I wouldn't be surprised if those things could haul six tons. (The one I saw was being converted to a tow truck.)I read a few years ago that, in a booklet from a car show, the f-350 superduty could tow up to about six tons.
Okay, so I have a Ford truck, a Toyota truck, a Dodge van, and a Honda. With the exception of a Euro-mobile, I think I have a fair representation of global automotive unity (or lack of).
I think that if the car fits, wear it, enjoy it, and don't worry about what everyone else is driving...although it made for a lively debate.
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#72
Posted 17 July 2003 - 10:57 PM
#73
Posted 18 July 2003 - 10:47 AM
#74
Posted 20 July 2003 - 03:27 PM
Err... thanks... I guess...Hah. That's actually funny.
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