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[SG Pilot]

I'm not sure if the type of spring powered gun would work, but has it ever been thought of?
By double-action I mean by pulling the trigger of the gun, it would cock and shoot the gun at the same time. Allowing semi-auto capabilities without pumping or anything. All the other spring guns are single-action because you have to cock the gun yourself and then pull the trigger to shoot, which is the one action done in pulling the trigger.

[davidbowie]

That would have to be one HUGE trigger pull.

Firearms can have double action triggers because the spring is only there to tap the primer, not to actually power the gun, thus the spring doesn't have to be huge. I guess if you had a reall wide and short plunger tube, it might be possible.

[m15399]

My freind has a little disc shooter that works like that. It doesn't compress a spring that then shoots air into the barrel, though. It has a little groove that pushes the discs out the front, which could work in a nerf gun, but it wouln't shoot too far. You're better off trying to figure out how to make a magazine advance on the "out" of the trigger (when the trigger is released). Then all you need is an air source and a semi-auto air valve.

[nerfer34]

That would have to be one HUGE trigger pull.
Yes it would it!


If you did want to do that then you would have to have the same amount of force either way, so it kind of would be a little pointless because it wouldn't make it any easier to cock it back.

Edited by nerfer34, 30 January 2006 - 04:32 PM.

[nerfer34]

That would have to be one HUGE trigger pull

Yes it would it!


If you did want to do that then you would have to have the same amount of force either way, so it kind of would be a little pointless because it wouldn't make it any easier to cock it back.

Edited by nerfer34, 30 January 2006 - 04:35 PM.

[nerfer34]

If you did want to do that then you would have to have the same amount of force either way, so it kind of would be a little pointless because it wouldn't make it any easier to cock it back.

Whoa what happened I did like a triple post. I am very sorry. How many times can you edit? I messed up when I tried to quote somebody.

Edited by nerfer34, 30 January 2006 - 04:37 PM.

[Meaker VI]

If you had a trigger that wasn't anything like a (standard) gun trigger, it might work. Like if you used the pump part of a shotgun as your pump (to charge the spring/recycle the ammo) and then let go of it to fire. Or if you used a trigger that moved straight back rather than pivoting up, like on the maverick, only much beefier and probably with more longer pull. Or a crank system, but we all should know how well that worked out for nerf.

The main problems you would be dealing with are that in order to shorten the length of the pull of the spring (in order to get the trigger to work it) you would either lose power or have to make the trigger way harder to pull. To simplify that, in order to get your regular trigger to pull back, say, a NF spring, you would need to gear the trigger so that pulling the trigger would be way harder than pulling back the spring in order to get more motion range out of the trigger. Like with bikes, the larger gears to smaller ones cause more motion (drive gear to tire gear, respectively): i.e. more turns of the tire; but take more force. In short, with a trigger-fired weapon you'd permantly be in 28th gear going up hill. Lance Armstrong doesn't even do that.

Don't get me wrong though, it should be possible, you'd just have to be a brute.

[m15399]

You could just incorporate it into the cocking mechanism. Pull back and at the end of the pull, it releases the plunger. Like doing rapid fire with a mav or firefly, except with no trigger pull.

[flashflint]

You mocked me but now ye shall pay. Ok psycotic ranting aside me and grunty are on the verge of a nerf breakthrough. a double action 6 shot nerf gun I shall post when it is compleat. Mwahahahahahahahahaha

[LastManAlive]

http://www.kapowwe.c...ry_Code=EdisonG

Take a look at those revolvers on that page. They can shoot nanos. Easy to modify them too. I used a 13/32nds drimil bit on the barrels of it, and then inserted 12/32nds inch brass in the smaller revolver (I forget its name). It gave it about 55 feet or range and is accuate at 45 in a 2' by 2' target. Fits great in my Tom McCann boots. I am thinking about puting a 15/32ths inch barrel in the atual barrel of the gun, to help it keep better air.

Edited by LastManAlive, 30 January 2006 - 09:35 PM.

[murakumo32]

You could attempt to make a gun that will cock and load a dart through a clip system. That way, you can just pull and fire with a clip instead of reload, pull, and fire. I never accually used a bolt type system before, but I can imagine that it takes an extra second or two, load a new dart into the barrel.

[Talio]

This topic falls under what's stated in this thread.

Not saying it's impossible, saying it hasn't been done, so don't sit here and KJ (keyboard jockey), go out and do it.

Talio.