
Barrel Selection
#1
Posted 24 October 2005 - 05:56 PM
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#2
Posted 24 October 2005 - 06:03 PM
If you can't get brass, that I can assume that you also can't get PETG. The other barrel materials to consider are Sch. 80 PVC (haven't used this, but some people claim it works) and Crayolas. Crayolas might be a good, slightly less constricted alternative to CVPC for your guns.
In general, if you have a spring gun (or any gun with a high air volume / slow air delivery), you will benefit from a constriction.
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#3
Posted 24 October 2005 - 06:11 PM
Low Volume Spring=?
High Volume Spring=?
High Volume Pump=?
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#4
Posted 24 October 2005 - 06:25 PM
Small volume spring = Tighter fit. You want a tighter fit so pressure has time to build up and give the dart that pop for better results in a shorter barrel.
Large volume spring = Middle of the two. You dont want it too loose since its not a pump gun, but you dont want it too tight since the barrel is going to be longer. You can tell if you have the right barrel for this if you can easily push a dart into the barrel but it wont slide down on its own.
If you can barely get your stefans into CPVC, try stretching the foam as you straiten them for dart making. This is make them thinner and fit better. Since you can get PVC and CPVC, I'm assuming you're shopping at a homedepot/lowes. See if they have SCH80 PVC, this can also work with micros though its usually a loose fit for most.
Edited by NinjZ, 24 October 2005 - 06:31 PM.
#5
Posted 26 October 2005 - 07:23 PM
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#6
Posted 26 October 2005 - 07:41 PM
#7
Posted 26 October 2005 - 07:42 PM
Edited by BloodMoon, 27 October 2005 - 06:52 PM.
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#8
Posted 26 October 2005 - 08:13 PM
So, if I use copper will it still fire just as far as a stock New school NF? It doesn't need to shoot further, just shoot stefans.Brass is usually a VERY loose fit for micros, so I wouldn't ever use it on a spring gun. I've seen copper used on air guns that have a very large air volume, but personally I find that brass works better for both spring and air guns.
Edited by nerfisfun, 26 October 2005 - 08:14 PM.
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#9
Posted 26 October 2005 - 08:19 PM
And brass isn't always a loose fit- there are over 20 sizes of brass, you can find one that is loose OR tight for your darts. Pick accordingly.
~ompa
#10
Posted 26 October 2005 - 08:44 PM
except for pvc 80 (or 40) right?If you remove the air restrictors, I'd say ANY fitting barrel material will increase your range.
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#11
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:05 PM
In your case of a NF, you can just take the restrictors and barrel peg out and you will be able to fire stefan micros. Follow the mod in the modifications section up to the point of attaching a new barrel. Instead of putting a new barrel on, just put the gun back together with the stock barrel. This will allow you to use stefans. Now, if you do want to go the extra distance and attach a new barrel you need to make your stefans first. Then take a few out with you and test fit them in different barrel materials. For a NF, use the material that is a tight fit ( but not so tight you cant get the darts in ).
What Ompa was saying, at this stage, for you, any barrel material that will fit your darts is most likely to give you better range over specificly the stock barrel ( assuming the mod is done correctly ).
Brass will NOT fit in a 1/2" PVC coupler. We are talking about a NF and you are jsut starting to mod, so lets keep it simple and just forget about the couplers and breach loading for now.
When you guys help people with mods or things like this topic, you CAN NOT tell him things that work for you without any explanation of your unqiue situations. It only confuses people and they take it as thats how it should always be done.
#12
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:10 PM
For a spring gun, as pointed out, you're going to want a nested barrel. Something like 2 different brass sizes, one step up from one another, put together should work well. The back end should simply keep the dart in place while sufficient air pressure builds up behind the dart when the plunger moves forwards.
That's the quick explanation. Experiment with your darts to see what works best; I'd use something around an inch of 17/32 brass and 4 inches of 9/16 brass. However, adjust the sizes according to your darts.
Follow the instructions under the mods section for the Nitefinder, except replace the PETG barrel with the nested brass barrel.
OR, just stick a straight 4-inch brass barrel on there, slightly tight for your darts.
~ompa
Edited by ompa, 26 October 2005 - 09:11 PM.
#13
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:12 PM
With my 40 (I think) PVC And Mega stefans I tried the barrel mod, I tried glueing PVC to the Orginal barrel, I took out that stupid pole, so I'll try to find some 1/2 FBR
Edited by nerfisfun, 26 October 2005 - 09:13 PM.
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#14
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:14 PM
I go to ACE Hardware for my FBR.
~ompa
Edited by ompa, 26 October 2005 - 09:14 PM.
#15
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:20 PM
The next-best thing Canada has is RONA, so will that work? I just tried glueing th PVC to the barrel because the other mod didn't work. I sanded it and it fits, but it shoots 0.653 feet.Nonono, don't glue the pvc just to the end of the stock barrel. Open up the NF, as shown in the mod, and glue the pvc directly to the plunger tube, as shown with PETG in the mod. You'll need to sand/cut your case down a bit to have the pvc fit, but it will.
I go to ACE Hardware for my FBR.
~ompa
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#16
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:23 PM
I buy my FBR at Lowe's and they used to carry 5/8" but then stopped, plus the price went up right after me and Sqiggs started buying it; go figure.
As everyone else has said, you'll want something tight on your particular foam. All FBR is not created equal.
#17
Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:33 PM
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