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#1 Viper

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 11:44 PM

Before I start making it, has anyone in the nerf community tried something similiar to crafting a treatise similiar to a Nicolo Machiavelli or Sun Tzu's the art of war masterpiece?
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 01:27 AM

I once wrote a handbook on my mercenary group's tactics... but it was low quality-styles. If you need info-sketches I can do that (assuming you're asking for help.) I like drawing generic people doing specific things.
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 08:10 AM

Before I start making it, has anyone in the nerf community tried something similiar to crafting a treatise similiar to a Nicolo Machiavelli or Sun Tzu's the art of war masterpiece?

Machiavelli's writings, which are the foundation for modern political realism, were based on politics so I'm not sure why he was mentioned in your post.

As for something similar to Sun Tzu's "Art of War" (which I am currently reading), I'm not sure what exactly you have in mind.

But here's 40 articles/editorials, primarily based on tactics.

I hope this isn't what you had in mind really.

Perhaps you should attempt something comparable to Carl Von Clausewitzs (sp?) "On War". Von Clausewitzs' work is considered a masterpiece just like "Art of War", only more relative to recent times.

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 08:15 AM

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I think the ole' LCM War Log needs some updating.
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#5 Viper

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 03:59 PM

I just started book 1 in Machiavalli's art of war, I was using its impact as a marker for how interesting it is.

In Sun Tzu's version I wanted it too look like the same format Sun Tzu did i.e

Gathering Forces:

1. One must use a diverse team of many specialties in order to succeed...........


Evil, your tactics are far beyond any I've read, maybe I'll just let you have that area.
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:12 PM

I think you may have more success if you try to adapt Sun Tuz's principles to nerf, rather than try to reinvent the wheel. The Art of war is a great text and has broad application in any situation where you have to face an opponent. My Contracts professor asserts that the reading is very helpful when adapted to negotiations.

But the military princples should carry over to nerf fairly well.
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:19 PM

Vassili wrote an article on the Art of War's relevance in Nerf. It's on FF and NW.
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:37 PM

I've always found Miyamoto Musashi to be more to the point.
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 09:53 PM

Evil, your tactics are far beyond any I've read, maybe I'll just let you have that area.

Thanks, I'm glad I have your permission after four years. B)
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 11:34 PM

I know about Von Clauswritz? Anyone know of any more modern war theorist, like a swartzkopf esk... strategist. Sun Tzu is a little too oversimplifed in my opinion. The best I've read on strategy is Games and Decessions, an introduction to game theory. Machiavelli has the best rhetoric I've read so far, its almost like a really good Tarantino movie script.

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 01:04 AM

Wow, evil, that is one extensive tactics page. I'm considering printing it out for reference. Good job, it's clear you have a lot of experience. I think you also convinced me to make a blowgun...
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Posted 19 April 2005 - 01:18 AM

I think you also convinced me to make a blowgun...

.....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I remember when I first met Evil and his peeps. They had blow guns....nuff siad
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#13 Evil

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 09:47 AM

I think you also convinced me to make a blowgun...

.....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I remember when I first met Evil and his peeps. They had blow guns....nuff siad

And we still did our fair share of damage. Nuff said.

Sun Tzu is a little too oversimplifed in my opinion.


Simple plans and strategies often work more smoothly than cumbersome strategies which involve more details. The more details involved, the better chance of something going wrong because there are too many variables to rely on. In other words, everything might have to go right for you (which can never be expected when you're actually warring). So as I see it, Sun Tzu's work seems like the perfect piece to analyze simply because its simple.

Although someone has already done it.

Machiavelli has the best rhetoric I've read so far, its almost like a really good Tarantino movie script.


I hope its directed better at least.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 05:48 PM

I think you also convinced me to make a blowgun...

.....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I remember when I first met Evil and his peeps. They had blow guns....nuff siad

And we still did our fair share of damage. Nuff said.


I recall a 9 on 4 war where we lost not a player ...maybe was just my imagination.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 07:08 PM

Ya i've discovered that too, Evil. Its best when you train your team with simple rules for behavior than devise complex stratgies with many variables.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 07:21 PM

I've found more nerfing and less practicing makes happiness.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 07:24 PM

I think you also convinced me to make a blowgun...

.....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I remember when I first met Evil and his peeps. They had blow guns....nuff siad

And we still did our fair share of damage. Nuff said.


I recall a 9 on 4 war where we lost not a player ...maybe was just my imagination.

Yeah, I remember that too. He he.

I also seem to remember a few wars after they actually all had guns where we had similair "Horsemen V.s." wars that went fairly well in our favor as well....
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 12:27 AM

Yea. And I remember when the two of you used to Nerf. :lol:
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 09:22 AM

I once wrote a 17 page Nerf War rule book containing the rules to all the different Nerf games we play and a list of penalties for certain scenarios. It was a pretty basic format and had fairly awful diction as I was only about 10 or 11 years old.
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 09:33 AM

Yea. And I remember when the two of you used to Nerf. :lol:

Yeah, we really gotta get working on that.... I feel empty inside
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 09:39 AM

Yea. And I remember when the two of you used to Nerf. :lol:

Yeah, we really gotta get working on that.... I feel empty inside

Dude, totally. I'm plannin' on hittin up this End o' May war the LCM has goin'. I gotta get in shape if I'm gonna make a showing at Armageddon this year.
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 05:10 PM

I didn't know you were going to armageddon, that's pretty cool man.

Yeah, I need to get back into shape as well... badly.
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