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#1 whatiam

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 10:55 AM

Ive been having some ideas about making a m4 out of an at2k. Well havent really started yet. Does anyone have an idea about how to add a clip, stock, sight rail, and hand grip.
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#2 CTA then and now

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 11:11 AM

Are you trying to make it work like an M4, or are you trying to make it look like an M4? If you are doing the latter, it's pretty easy. Just be creative.

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#3 whatiam

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 12:19 PM

I am actually trying to make it work like an m4.
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Posted 02 April 2005 - 05:30 PM

Whoa...
The stock, sight rail, and grip shouldn't be much of a problem, but what you need to focus on is the clip.

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#5 whatiam

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 03:58 PM

Yes I understand. I wil be working on that I guess. I will keep you guys posted.
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#6 Talio

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 04:37 PM

So lets see, you have the idea of what you want to do, but no way of actually executing it, so you come to us for ideas. So in other words, you have a crazy shit idea that would be super cool and original, but you don't have the skills or intellegence to excecute it yourself. My advice is worry more about playing then making your gun look like a fire arm, in the long run, you'll be better off and have more fun. In the meantime, don't come here looking for someone to spell out plans to a homemade. Use your mind and do it yourself.

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#7 whatiam

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 10:55 AM

I have the intellegence to create a homeade because I am working on boltsnipers homeade and It is coming quite well. I came to you guys for any ideas or creative critisism.
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#8 GeneralPrimevil

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 12:00 PM

In other words, he's trying to make us think. Just adapt what you are yousing on boltsniper's homemade, only using the AT2K valve instead of a spring.

I think I'm the opposite. I can create these marvelous ideas which, mathematically and scientifically will work, but can't build them because I don't have the right tools. All I really need is two tools though; A drilling/milling machine and a precision lathe.

<EDIT>second paragraph</EDIT>

Edited by GeneralPrimevil, 10 April 2005 - 12:51 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 12:47 PM

Talio stop being a dick. This thread is harmless and so is whatiam. You can find something better to do here on NH than insult these kids when its unwarranted. I know you're better than that.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 07:27 PM

Yeah, cause there is alot of advantage of coming up with an idea, having pretty much no idea's on your own how to do it, and then ask for ideas on the internet. I'm better then that, yes.

Evil, stop calling me out or I'll start talking about the bang up job you're doing over at NHQ. I'm just telling this kid he's gonna need to have more information and general idea of what he's doing before he comes here asking for ideas. Besides, he needs to worry more about getting the gun to shoot straight and getting some field experience before he worries about what his gun looks like.

And I still stand by this. You guys that come on here asking for advice on how to make your Crossbow look like a sherman tank, please, if you really want to carry out such a crazy idea, you're going to have to do it on your own, no one here knows how to do it, nor do I think too many would want to.

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 07:40 PM

You guys that come on here asking for advice on how to make your Crossbow look like a sherman tank, please, if you really want to carry out such a crazy idea, you're going to have to do it on your own, no one here knows how to do it, nor do I think too many would want to.

I hate to do this to ya Talio, but I do know how to make a crossbow into a tank...sorta. It wouldn't be possible if it weren't for the Sherman's small bore cannon. It involves a golf cart/go cart and plywood. I probably would do make it, if I had a crossbow and someone footed the bill for materials needed. Now had you have put Abrams or T-72, I would've not posted.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 09:46 PM

Congratulations, it still doesn't change the fact that people need to work on their own ideas rather then automatically asking someone how to do it. Which was the issue at hand.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 09:54 PM

Okay, here I go again....

I believe that there have formed two schools of thought in the NIC...

Nerf HQ is the place for younger, free-thinking minds...that is, dreamers. Probably never going to make even half of their ideas come into reality. We've seen everything from mines to explosive propulsion systems, to tanks, to gun emplacements, even someting as nuts as "real lightsabers". While a few of those have made it to fruition, most have been left at the drawing board while the free thinker goes on to other such lofty dreams.

That's fine.


Nerfhaven (correct me if I'm wrong, it's just my observation) is for those who want to "get real", and actually begin to throw themselves into their projects. From the time I started brainstorming my AT 2000 "player's rig", until I actually built it, was a short few weeks. Is it done? Never. I'll keep on tweaking and experimenting until it suits my style of Nerfing. At NH, they go beyond just "good intentions", they forge ahead until they have something.

That's fine too.


The problem comes when worlds collide...G. Primevil is saying he can create a Sherman Tank out of a crossbow...if he had the right tools, resources, and perhaps motivation. That is a direct slap in the face to Talio, who is just trying to say in his own way to whatiam, either start going ahead with a project, or wait till he has something tangible (even working drawings) before posting anything on the board.

Look back to the first posts in Modifications....from the "Airtech round table discussion" days. Everyone had been busy tooling around with what they had and were posting real modifications. They didn't post dreams, wishes, or nice thoughts, nor did they say "I can do that if..."

Nowadays, we see more and more "concepts", more "is it possible" questions, without anyone even TRYING to give it a go. So you may ruin a blaster. Bummers, that's the price of experimenting. Take a risk or two. MODIFY something. THEN post about it.

That's why I love Lefty (southpaw over here). He obviously doesn't have any access to exotic milling equipment, nor fancy tools, nor anything beyond household goods. But look at his stuff. It's butt-ugly. It's practical. It's BEAUTIFUL. He thrashes his toys and maxes them out. Just like the old days. Real Nerf workshop stuff.

There's ways to bring about some balance. Just be aware that if you're going to post something at NH, it better be pretty intentional. Just as 8-10 people are hell-bent on duplicating Boltsniper's rifle (I am one of them, I just made the plunger), it'd be in good taste to show the community something beyond good intentions.

Sorry for the ramble. Just wanted to throw that up. I mean on the table.


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Posted 11 April 2005 - 12:21 PM

Talio, NHQ has been doing well recently and the M&A team is actually a team right now. We're doing fine and the forums are in good shape. Thank you.

It was the condescending attitude and tone of your post that I was acknowledging, not your administrative skills.

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