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#1 FIDO

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Posted 16 January 2005 - 07:26 PM

O.K., this will be my first mod, so suggestions will be appreciated.

First, take off all the screws to the gun, make sure to not strip them (I had some trouble not stripping the screws). Then, take out the revolver by pushing the yellow button and pulling the revolver out. Unscrew the parts holding the revolver together.
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Pull the front part off of the revolver, but make sure you don't lose the spring. Then pull all the other springs and air restrictors out.
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Take the rings off of the revolver. Dremel them so that the peg is gone.
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Put the rings on the back part of the revolver, and put the revolver back together. Push the pole back in, and make sure that the spring is on the back part of the revolver. Screw everything back together and you’re done!

The average range is about 40 ft with whisteler mircos 5ft. flat from the ground. The shots are inconsistent too.

This gun isn’t the best yet, but I plan on posting some more mods up after I’m finished.

EDIT: Sorry for the big pics. cxwq, can you move this topic, I forgot to put this in the modifications section.

Edited by FIDO, 16 January 2005 - 07:51 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 01:53 AM

Good job, it's nice to finally see an actual write-up of a maverick modification.
But 40 ft doesn't seem like much to me, yet. What kind of ranges did it get before you modified it ?

-And pictures too - wow.
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Posted 17 January 2005 - 11:15 AM

But 40 ft doesn't seem like much to me


That is with whistler micros, which don't go that far. The gun makes up for the range with great ROF. There is a terrible seal between the plunger tube and the revolver, I plan on fixing that.

What kind of ranges did it get before you modified it ?


I don't know, I never tested it unmodded, but I'd say it shot about 15-20ft.
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Posted 17 January 2005 - 11:36 AM

Great job FIDO!!! 40 feet flat is on par with the powerclip, which gets about 80 feet max. That's not to shabby for a pistol w/ 6 shots.

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 04:49 PM

Niiiiiiiiccccce.....

EDIT: A powerclip that gets 80ft? wow....

Edited by WEASEL, 17 January 2005 - 09:35 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 09:52 AM

A powerclip that gets eighty feet. Right...

Nice job for your first time pictoral mod. Can't wait to get my hands on a Mav of my own.
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 12:19 PM

I just did this mod last night and since I have no whistler's tried it with normal darts and miro stefans, niether of which would fire. I plan to try the foam backer rod mod tonight to see I can get it to work. Yes I put things back together properly, and no I didn't break anything.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 05:40 PM

Great job FIDO! Well-written mod, especially for a dog :D.

40 feet flat is on par with the powerclip, which gets about 80 feet max. That's not to shabby for a pistol w/ 6 shots.


A Powerclip... gets 80 feet... Single barrelled, maybe, but definitely not an average, 10-shot Powerclip. And who would single barrel a PC? That's like double barrelling a WildFire or a RapidFire 20...
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 05:50 PM

Single barreled PC wont get 80 either...Im pretty sure he means 80 angled, but it would still be a bit less than 80...

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 06:29 PM

I said 40 feet on par with powerclip(straight), 80 feet max is obviously angled. Nerfcenter has 78 feet max on their review. Trust me it really gets about 85 feet max on average when angled(max). I just got done testing the maverick and it gets 30.7 feet unmodded when slightly angled, which is restricted by my basement sealing. I had about 2 shots in the series before(not averaged in) that hit the wall at 36 feet, therefore concluding it to be able to to shoot further than 36 feet max. Its practical range is probably about 25 feet. Its already beyond the rachetblast,even unmodded. Angled it got about 65 feet, but thats behind a very strong wind. I'd say maybe 40-45 feet max angled.

Edited by Viper, 18 January 2005 - 06:50 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 08:04 PM

Does anyone else notice just how horribly inefficient the maverick is? First off, there's the space behind the restrictors before the air even GETS to the dart. Second, the plunger assembly is like that of a scout, EXCEPT the dart isn't in the plunger tube! This means the air doesn't get nearly as compressed since the whole plunger tube is empty anyways, the pressure is only doubled in there if you seal it, while in the scout since it's a smaller area for the air to compress in you have a higher pressure behind the dart. In addition to all the above stated, the seal between the plunger and the revolver is HORRIBLE. There isn't even a freaking o-ring or foam like the PC. And also, if you notice something, the air restrictors just butt up against the inner barrels. This is ALSO a non-airtight seal, which is a loss of air. I'm solving that by epoxying the joint between air-restrictor disk and inner barrel. If you're getting 40ft. off of your mod, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to up it to at least 55 if these problems can be solved. And yes, I'm working on solving them now. There are so many inefficiencies though, and with the ranges reported on the mods thus far without addressing any of them, this could actually be an incredible ROF pistol with a 55-60ft range.

Expect me to post a simplistic mod with some solutions to these problems by/on monday.

And by the way, I think a barrel replacement is NOT necessary. The barrels themselves are already constricted, as well as smooth on the inside. I highly doubt a barrel rReally Really Effeminateaement in this case is going to really make any difference, if not harm the range. Besides, you can't make the barrels any longer anyways, so all you can do is constrict it (which it already is) and make the inside of the barrel have less friction (it's already pretty damn smooth as is, and you need a little friction for the constriction to really have a good effect, so the additional friction it has over brass I think is alright). With the information provided, I would recommend against a barrel change simply because of the work involved.

And excellent mod FIDO, you helped me figure out just to PULL to get the revolver apart. I was afraid of breaking it.

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Edited by ompa, 18 January 2005 - 08:08 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 08:24 PM

And also, if you notice something, the air restrictors just butt up against the inner barrels. This is ALSO a non-airtight seal, which is a loss of air.

Hmm, I never thought about that, My freind (earl the bunny) said that there might be too much friction between the o-ring and the revolver. I think that we would have to grease the thing up, and maybe widen the holes on the back of the revolver a little.

Edited by FIDO, 18 January 2005 - 08:36 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 08:27 PM

You can't widen the holes, because the revolver doesn't always rotate into the EXACT same spot, so you'd have an air loss... I wasn't so much thinking an o-ring there but even a bit of craft foam around the nozzle (I don't know how else to describe it) would help.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 09:12 PM

Ompa made some very good points. I think the nozzle is way too wide for the revolver's back air hole, maybe using craft foam around the surface would do both to make a better seal and constrict the hole.

Edited by Viper, 18 January 2005 - 09:15 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 09:21 PM

It can't be made any smaller, under risk that the hole won't be lined up properly. The best thing to do would be to find some way to fix the seal, and I think craft sheet is the best. I'll try it soon as exams are over, which is in 2 days.

Does anyone agree with me (that has the Maverick) on the barrel issue though?

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Edited by ompa, 18 January 2005 - 09:46 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 10:21 AM

I happen to have some craft sheet handy and did a simple experiment. I stuck a small piece of craft sheet maybe 1 cm by 3cm, between the cylinder and the nozzel. I haven't cut a whole in it yet. but anyway the the foam sheeting is too thick to allow the cylinder to rotate by themselves. The gun will still fire, but you might have to manually rotate the barrels if you use craft sheet.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 04:19 PM

2mm craft sheet ompa. 3mm is gives to much resistance. Its design is very inefficient, I'l try to look for some orings.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 08:57 PM

Yes I put things back together properly

No you didn't. You probably left out the plates from the air restrictors (which is way easier to seal with hot glue).

ompa: I agree on the barrels. In addition, the Maverick is quite possibly the most accurate weapon—unbarreled—that I've witnessed. Sure the darts drop, good ol' gravity, but as far as windage its a dead aim. Shot three in a row through the hinges of an open door from across the room.
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 01:18 AM

I got myself a little problem. I'm having lots of trouble opening the revolver. I took all the screws out, but i just cant seperate it. Am i supposed to just pull very hard on the two sides? I'm kinda afraid that it will break on me.

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:28 PM

Make sure you got all the screws out, and then pull it open from the front part to the back part. I had a bit of trouble too trying to open the gun.
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Posted 23 January 2005 - 01:32 AM

Yes I put things back together properly

No you didn't. You probably left out the plates from the air restrictors (which is way easier to seal with hot glue).

I took the time to study how the gun was put together before I pulled out all the guts. I didn't leave out the air restricter platest that I spent time dremeling out, that would be silly, and circumvent the entire point of trying out the mod.
Turns out you were half right though.
Something else entirely was wrong. The inner part of the pluner must have poped out of place when I was putting it back together because it had been slideing back with the outer section.

All I had to do was open it back up and move the inner plunger back into place, all of 2 milimeters.

Edited by J_cobbers, 23 January 2005 - 02:37 AM.

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Posted 24 January 2005 - 11:21 PM

So wait, for general concensus, was the gun better before or after this mod? All I did was take the posts out (for now) and it sucks hard.
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 11:25 PM

Better. Usually a gun is better without restrictors than with restrictors.
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Posted 25 January 2005 - 12:36 PM

From what I've seen, this gun might be better unmodded.
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Posted 25 January 2005 - 01:15 PM

Got mine last night. I removed the air restrictors and just put the discs back in. Helped range slightly. It was more for the ability to use stefans witch also get slightly better range than the stock darts.
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