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[last man standin]

Alright, heres the situation, a little while ago I bought an sm1500 and an at3k off ebay from a company named netclearances. They took there sweet time shipping it and charged me a whopping 25 bucks for shipping, but me, being dimwitted as i am, still bought it. I recieved it today and even though Item description said new in box, They were crudeley taped into their boxe with duck tape.They were without bullets, bu that wouldnt have been a problem, had they worked.I can fix the sm1500 with plumbers goop, but the at3k confuses me. It seems to be in working order but is not. bullets dont even leave the gun. Please help me!!!

[kingofnerf]

My at3k seemed to be like that too with some darts. Does air come out? And what darts are you using? I'm not to sure exactly what the problem might be. If you want a pic pm me, I can disect mine and take pic if you would like.

Edited by kingofnerf, 13 January 2005 - 08:05 PM.

[last man standin]

I was useing micro stephans but the air restrictor wouldn't allow them, so i was useing stock micros from a tek six, which has the oval hole like the shape of the air restrictors. I'll try just takeing the air restrictors out, i havent had time o do anything to it yet. Air seems to be comeing out, but not as much as i'd like.pics would be good, ill open mine up to see if anything is shaken out of place, ar if maybe theres somethin blocking the airflow.

[FBB]

Yea the AT3K does that if you don't use the proper airtech darts with it. It really sucks if you don't mod it.

[kingofnerf]

Yea the AT3K does that if you don't use the proper airtech darts with it. It really sucks if you don't mod it.

How far do the darts go after you mod them?


In order for me to send pic you need to give me your email, because I cant seem to get pic up on nerfhaven.

[last man standin]

Its all right, I dont really need the pics. If I take the air resrictors out will it shoot micro stephans? The package didnt even come with darts. A word from the wise, if you want to buy a gun off ebay, check the company, and DONT buy from Net Clearances!

[ItalionStallion]

Hmmm, id suggest getting their phone number. They are a factory based company so sometimes things get messed up after they take pictures. Im sure they'd give you a knew one if you called them and explained your situation.

That still sucks though.

[last man standin]

Yeah, thanks, ill try that, though i might just e-mail them Instead of calling.I also dout they would give me a new one. They probably dont even have a new one. I think I have some airtech darts left over from my at1k, and ill go see if it'l fire those.

<(Whoo-hoo! hundreth post!!!)>

Edited by last_man_standin_, 13 January 2005 - 08:51 PM.

[Viper]

You too? Ya net clearances charged me $12 shippin on .99 at2000. The box was in horrible condition also. Never buy from them, they're scammers

[MattPaintballer]

Well, I'm sorry that you two were ripped off by them. You should contact eBay, and tell them you were overcharged for shipping and received a damaged product. Also tell them the description was highly inaccurate and you did not recieve the item described.

Anyways, this is why people need to read sellers' feedback. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but did either of you check the seller's feedback rating? Sure it was 97 or so percent, but did you see how many negatives they have? 3500. That means three thousand five hundred people were scammed or mislead. eBay help even says that the percentages are irrelevant compared to the number of positives versus the number of negatives. Of course, I probably wouldn't buy from somebody with a 65% positive feedback rating, but I wouldn't buy from somebody with 97% and 3500 negatives.

No mean to nag, just saying you should check feedback ALWAYS.

[last man standin]

Seriously?Wow, they are scammers. 12.00 on an at2k is unbeliveable..Actually, not for me, they charged me 12.00 a piece shiping and handling too. Im gonna give them the worst feedback possible, and try to delete their account by complaining to ebay. Back on topic, I think i lost all my air tech ammo, so I used a hot nail to shape the holes in some micro stephans like the air restrictors in the at3k. it only shot about 6' flat, but i can fix that with a hacksaw, some cpvc, and some epoxy.I think I'll take out the cursed restrictors and do a simple barrel replacement. It still might only bring it up to about 30', but it dosent matter, im gonna use my sm1500 (once I fix the airtank) as my main weapon anyway.Also, is my sm1500 the newer or older one? its the one with the wierd thing connecting the handle tthe pump.

[MattPaintballer]

Newer version:



Older version is more pistol-like.

[last man standin]

Yeah, thats the one i have, but for some reason it looks like the airtank is sitting farther back. Also, another reason to hate netclearances, the pic in the item discription was a nib older version!

[ItalionStallion]

Yeah, thanks, ill try that, though i might just e-mail them Instead of calling.I also dout they would give me a new one. They probably dont even have a new one. I think I have some airtech darts left over from my at1k, and ill go see if it'l fire those.

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Believe me, CALL THEM. If you call them, then they'll know your serious.

[MattPaintballer]

Yeah, thats the one i have, but for some reason it looks like the airtank is sitting farther back. Also, another reason to hate netclearances, the pic in the item discription was a nib older version!

Therefore you didn't get the item you bought, so you can tell that to eBay . It looks like the tank is sitting farther back because in that pic, there are no ammo holders. Here's a pic of it with ammo holders, but the lighting isn't as good:

[kingofnerf]

Seriously?Wow, they are scammers. 12.00 on an at2k is unbeliveable..Actually, not for me, they charged me 12.00 a piece shiping and handling too. Im gonna give them the worst feedback possible, and try to delete their account by complaining to ebay. Back on topic, I think i lost all my air tech ammo, so I used a hot nail to shape the holes in some micro stephans like the air restrictors in the at3k. it only shot about 6' flat, but i can fix that with a hacksaw, some cpvc, and some epoxy.I think I'll take out the cursed restrictors and do a simple barrel replacement. It still might only bring it up to about 30', but it dosent matter, im gonna use my sm1500 (once I fix the airtank) as my main weapon anyway.Also, is my sm1500 the newer or older one? its the one with the wierd thing connecting the handle tthe pump.

Instead of heating a nail, I have found using a screw driver works better because of the handle. You can heat the tip, and the handle wont get hot.

[cxwq]

Every netclearances auction I've seen has had this disclaimer (emphasis mine) in the listing:

All items that Netclearances sell on eBay appear to be in good condition (unless we haveindicated otherwise by a 1 or 2 box rating). Please be advised that the items for sale are store liquidations excess merchandise and consumer returns and there is a small chance that the merchandise is defective or may have missing parts. This site poses a degree of RISK for buyers and is not for every bidder. We want to be very clear and upfront about these items. The pricing on the auction site is reflective of the risk a buyer takes.


I've avoided them like the plague because they sell returned items. They do make this pretty damn clear in their auctions so I don't know why you insist on bitching about it here. Christ, they even have a little ranking system to tell you how fucked up your purchase is before you bid on it.

[Viper]

Its usually hard to look for something like "returned items" when your main concern is the price. They also make no mention of shipping costs, so theoretically they could charge as much as they want and they charge a TON. Its not really that they are illegal, just that we are trying to ward off people who may come across one of their auctions. I'm assuming they get 1st time buyers only as their primary demographic.

[cxwq]

Alright, it seems like a few people are seriously pissed off at this seller. I'm rather confused as to what kind of brain damage is required to think they misrepresented the auction.

It is extremely hard to miss the two pages of information and disclaimers in their auctions.

They link to this page which explains that they ship UPS from Canada and provides a shipping calculator. To test the calculator I put a tiny little answering machine they're selling into the calculator and it came up $11. Seems like they are representing their high shipping costs pretty fairly.

Seller info clearly states location in Canada. This is at the top of every item listing. Why a US resident would buy a $1 item shipped from Canada is completely beyond my comprehension.

92% of people have left positive feedback so I doubt very much that they serve "1st time buyers only as their primary demographic."

7% of people have left negative feedback because they didn't read the fucking auction listing. Welcome to the club guys.

[Viper]

I left positive feedback, and I wasn't satisfied, so its likely other people left positive feedback just to avoid retaliation by netclearances on their feedback. I knew they were in canada and was ignorant of the shipping costs associated with UPS from canada,which is uber-expensive. Well, at least I'm not the only illiterate one besides George W. Bush in th US, I got atl east 3500 friends. Well sorry cxwq, you seem angry and I like your forum.

Edited by Viper, 14 January 2005 - 11:00 PM.

[last man standin]

Same here, i guess I just didnt think to find the page saying my guns were broken. I just looked at the description, which said New in Box, and made a bid.

[ryball]

Alright, it seems like a few people are seriously pissed off at this seller. I'm rather confused as to what kind of brain damage is required to think they misrepresented the auction.

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7% of people have left negative feedback because they didn't read the fucking auction listing. Welcome to the club guys.

Brain damage? Okay...

Let me just preface this by saying that I registered to this site JUST to reply to this topic in hopes that NO ONE EVER buys from these guys again.

How's this for misrepresentation:

They listed a "Maverick rotating barrel 6-shot nerf gun"

I won the auction and noticed that right before the auction ended they raised the shipping cost. I had no proof so I just paid it and hoped for the best.

Two weeks later, and no item. I emailed them and they sent me a tracking number. Another week passed and UPS still showed that the item had not been given to them. Another email and they said check the tracking number again. Nothing for another week. Another email sent and they responded that they would ship it immediately. Finally UPS showed that netclearances had given them a package to ship.

Two weeks later I get a package. What they sent me was the Nitefinder ex-3.

When I recieved the package, I went back to the ebay listing to use the email link on the item to let them know that they had sent the wrong item and noticed that they had changed the listing. It was an html listing so I assume they just changed the page the listing pointed to. They could not change the listing title so it still said "Maverick rotating barrel 6-shot nerf gun". They also deleted all the pictures for the listing.

After 2 weeks of 7 emails back and forth running me in circles sending them pictures and looking for non-existent "warehouse numbers" they finally admitted that they had sold the item to another bidder and could not replace it.

They offered me $2 in "instore credit" to keep the wrong item...

NOT ONLY THAT but they shipped from NEW YORK NOT Canada and still charged the rediculous shipping. They had nothing to say when I tried to call them on that twice.

I will not leave feedback for these guys and I can only assume that there are TONS of others who will do the same because these guys explicitly state that they will retaliate with negative feedback even if it their own admitted mistake.

Buyer definitely beware of these guys.

Oh, and sorry for digging up an ancient post...

Edited by ryball, 05 January 2006 - 02:31 PM.

[nerfer34]

Well first contact them and if they don't help leave negative feedback.
If you are forced to do it on your own try to get a diagram of the At3K or try to follow Cxwq's mod for it. Ya ebay's good but once in a while they have these scammers. I also bought a gun off of ebay and it said NIB but it was clearly taped up and came with no ammo.