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[Goat]

In nerf many of the guns have organic shapes that are difficult to do precision aiming with. There is always the method of guessing or using your sixth sense to shoot, but is there anything better to use? One blaster that comes to mind is the 2k, it gets lots of range and it's accurate but it isn't the easiest to aim with. Post your ideas or methods.

[ompa]

Practice. Keep in mind that every nerf dart is going to be different (if you use stefans), so percision aiming is out of the question anyways. Just learn to be comfortable with your gun, practice shooting targets or something on your own until you get the hang of it.

~ompa

[Nerfy BuNNy]

I use the force.

!!!!

[taita cakes]

I usually hip-aim like with an M-16, or use a rough judge/line of sight with pistols and such.

Practice is the key, or the force, but i'm not sure thats something you can learn, its something you're born with.

[Techno-Dann]

You practice. And you practice. And you practice some more. Try shooting your gun with the gun inside an open-ended cardboard box. Learn to tell where your gun is pointed, just by the feel of the handle. And then learn how to use the force, too.

Really, it's all about practice.

[cerealkiller]

I had the same problem with the at3k, with the curve on top. You could build a scope out of pvc, really. First cut out a rod of pvc with the measure of how long you want the scope to be. Then cut 4 slits into the front of the pvc, making the slits opposite of each other form two perpendicular lines, like a "+". Then take a couple strands of string, bind them together, and place them in the slits opposite of each other. Make sure that they are really tight and then glue them on. then, tape the scope on the gun, and position it correctly by shooting with the scope, and doing ajustments to it. When you're sure that the scope is in the position you want it to be, glue it on, and when it drys, take the tape off.

[taita cakes]

cerealkiller, on Dec 6 2004, 02:48 AM, said:

I had the same problem with the at3k, with the curve on top. You could build a scope out of pvc, really. First cut out a rod of pvc with the measure of how long you want the scope to be. Then cut 4 slits into the front of the pvc, making the slits opposite of each other form two perpendicular lines, like a "+". Then take a couple strands of string, bind them together, and place them in the slits opposite of each other. Make sure that they are really tight and then glue them on. then, tape the scope on the gun, and position it correctly by shooting with the scope, and doing ajustments to it. When you're sure that the scope is in the position you want it to be, glue it on, and when it drys, take the tape off.

Or just learn to use the fucking gun.

[cerealkiller]

taita_cakes, on Dec 5 2004, 06:53 PM, said:

Or just learn to use the fucking gun.

just a suggestion man.

[taita cakes]

cerealkiller, on Dec 6 2004, 02:57 AM, said:

taita_cakes, on Dec 5 2004, 06:53 PM, said:

Or just learn to use the fucking gun.

just a suggestion man.

I know, I know. But even then, why waste so much time and effort [as well as PVC and money] and sacrifice the guns looks when you could simply learn how to use the gun.

I can shoot a can with a PC from over 20 feet every single time, because i practiced and i knew how the gun felt.

[Goat]

From my experience in nerf wars "the force" method is what I usually use, but in rare instances aiming along some sort of sight thing works.

[Oroku Saki]

No matter how powerful you mod your guns, you will never have dead-on accuracy with a Nerf gun. This is why it is pointless to use a scope.

I simply get a feel for the firing of the particular gun, and just go from there. In my expreience, sights don't seem to do much good either. Use the force. It is your best friend.

[nerfspecialforces]

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No matter how powerful you mod your guns, you will never have dead-on accuracy with a Nerf gun. This is why it is pointless to use a scope.

That's because the darts aren't accurate, not the gun. Power has nothing to do with accurasy in most cases.

[Oroku Saki]

nerfspecialforces, on Dec 6 2004, 01:03 AM, said:

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No matter how powerful you mod your guns, you will never have dead-on accuracy with a Nerf gun. This is why it is pointless to use a scope.

That's because the darts aren't accurate, not the gun. Power has nothing to do with accurasy in most cases.

I meant improving accuracy through modding. Given a gun using Brass or PVC pipe, with all the pressure mods, breech loading, etc, as well as using well made stefans, you may improve the accuracy, but not enough to effectively use a scope. I'm sorry that my last post was a little obscure.

I'll just shut up for now on my scientific theory, and just go with my force theory of aiming.

Edited by Oroku_Saki, 06 December 2004 - 01:13 AM.

[Langley]

On guns like the sm1500 I just hold the gun either close to my side at man-tit height and look down the barrel from above, or hold it in front of my chest and do the same. You only really need to aim left and right. You should be aiming vertically by feel since you have to slightly arc all/most of your shots anyway.

[okto]

sights are of some use. my crossbow is nearly pinpoint to the tube sight i mounted (the trigger from an AT3k with thread reticle), and my NF is pretty close to accurate when you aim along the fins. on a 2k, some sort of straight line to aim off of would help; a tube, a piece of wood glued on as a sight rail, something.
i agree that getting a feel for a gun is essential, but sights can help. also, certain guns are easier to get a feel for than others; the BBB is easier to snap-shoot with than an AT2k, for example.

[Spectre2689]

Sights really do me no use. Most of the time I guesstimate where the barrel is pointing. It's not the gun you need to aim with, it's the barrel. If the barrel's pointed at the target, chances are the projectile is going to hit the target. At longer ranges you'd probably need to compensate for projectile drop. But in Nerf you're not really all that far that you'd need sights to aim. Most of the time you're up close and don't have time to use the sights anyways.

[JC]

Spectre2689, on Dec 6 2004, 03:47 PM, said:

Sights really do me no use.  Most of the time I guesstimate where the barrel is pointing.  It's not the gun you need to aim with, it's the barrel.  If the barrel's pointed at the target, chances are the projectile is going to hit the target.  At longer ranges you'd probably need to compensate for projectile drop.  But in Nerf you're not really all that far that you'd need sights to aim.  Most of the time you're up close and don't have time to use the sights anyways.

Silly as he may be...

He's right. Aim with the barrel. If you can't see the barrel, you must find a place on the gun to line up with your target, and then practice with it over and over. Sights on guns are not really that useful, the main thing is having a feel for the gun. Sometimes it comes naturally, sometimes not. You just have to know where that dart is going when you press the trigger. I did this with my LNL...



It's nice when you have time to use it. But when you're in a hurry, it really has no purpose, it all comes down to a feel for the gun after that point.

Edited by =JC=, 06 December 2004 - 07:07 PM.

[3nerfiteers]

I pull a james bond, wait for the enemy to appear in back of me, then swing around and shoot visualizing the target in under a half of a second. Practing with the gun helps too i guess.





The force is strong with these ones...

Edited by 3nerfiteers, 06 December 2004 - 07:59 PM.

[Langley]

I just think that with most of these guns you should be slightly arcing them anyway, and if you don't hold the gun directly in front of your face, you should be able to see the barrel. Holding the gun below eye-level and tilting it up should give you a clear view of the barrel even if it's an AT2k. Also, sometimes couplers and bad barrel replacements can make your barrel tend to point in a completely different direction from the center line of your gun.

[Tarius]

I don't know but adrinalin helps with the aiming, For example it was my first paintball, and then my first nerf war, and I had an adrinalin rush and started shooting, and didn't get hit, and made some of the luckiest shots.

[cerealkiller]

Yea, I agree with getting used to the gun, because, after all, even when you do the same mod on the same model, theres always a difference in the way it shoots. I don't agree with scopes being useless because, well, it really does help me aim, after practicing awhile with it. It also makes me feel more er, secure, if you know what i mean. One time I head shotted my friend about 75 feet away, with his head sticking out 6 inches, all thanks to my scope. Anyways, to contribute to this post: Something I forgot to add was sticking a lazer pointer right on the brass or pvc barrel. Final note so I make myself sound like I know what im talking about: Scopes are good to have, but you shouldn't depend totally on it.

[Half Newb Half Nerfer]

The best way to aim better is practice.
~Halfling

[JC]

cerealkiller, on Dec 6 2004, 11:32 PM, said:

Anyways, to contribute to this post: Something I forgot to add was sticking a lazer pointer right on the brass or pvc barrel.

A sight on the gun has much better use than a pointer. See, most people nerf outside in the daylight, and you can't see the dot anyways. If you're shooting a moving target, you have to lead them, therefore the pointer won't be of any use...you'd still just have to aim with the other ways mentioned. If you nerf indoors, it might be pretty helpful. But it also gives your position away, they aren't totally accurate because a pointer goes perfectly straight for several hundred yards. Stefans don't.

Edited by =JC=, 07 December 2004 - 09:54 AM.

[Groove]

I practice regularly, but I don't use 2K's, I use .22's, .45's, 9 milli's (I also dabble around in .223's when I get bored of the smaller caliburs). It's amazing how skeet and even simple target shooting helps your hand to eye coordination.

While some of this has nothing to do with the level of Nerf, such as recoil compensation, it does lend itself hand in hand to the basic skills of holding, aiming, and firing a Nerf blaster. I wrote an article on this a while back, but it never got published...bit of a touchy subject. We measure our ranges with feet, not feet per second, so concentrating heavily on such aiming will only help you to a certain degree.

But yeah, I concur that barrel aiming is probably your best bet for aiming accurately with most Nerf blasters. That and once you're 'used' to a weapon, it's pointless in describing how you aim, you just sort of 'do' because it comes as second nature.

[1313]

I put a green laser pointer on my brass modded titan and it works wonders, its very accurate, even from long range. I can see the dot in the day spectre.

Edited by 1313, 07 December 2004 - 07:20 PM.