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#1 jumico

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Posted 28 November 2004 - 01:53 AM

Hi I know theres an article but I have a question. What is the best material to use for a 2 inch stefan with a bb fishing weight? Is petg the best? What do you guys think about cpvc, pvc, or brass? Is 4 inches a good length? I just want the most range so I need a good barrel. Is that a good stefan or is the weight to heavy? I searched but couldn't find good answers. I know there are a lot of nite finder mod topics but please help.
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Posted 28 November 2004 - 02:08 AM

Dude, go to the store, get your foam, and shove it down all the possible barrel material you can find. Use the one thats has a good seal, but not to the point were your twisting it. If two are the same, choose one, it really doesn't matter in the long run.
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#3 jumico

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Posted 28 November 2004 - 02:24 AM

Ok I thought it made more of a difference. Thanks.
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Posted 28 November 2004 - 03:50 AM

Yes, unfortunately there are too many NF threads to do a proper search on it. Ok, here's the NF deal:

NF's are kind of powerful for their size. Meaning that, you can't get a barrel that is long enough but not too long to be unpractical for carrying. So, we stick with 4-5 inches. PETG is what's recommended on our NH Mods section, but most people use brass, because that's what's available to them. If you had a little extra time on your hands, I'd suggest doing THIRST's version (using CPVC), but keep in mind you either have to dremel down your CPVC or stretch your FBR extra. However, the payoff may be worth it - THIRST's CPVC modded guns are normally very good.

Your stefans are definitely NOT overweight. That weight is OK, but people have been gravitating toward a longer dart (think 2.5 inches) and a heavier weight (ompa suggests 1/4" steel(?) shot).

Ranges of the NF are consistently between 55 and 80. You normally never get the extremes, but if you do the mod right, you can get consistent high 60s, or 70s. The key for modding the NF is actually using the air restrictor to your advantage.
I'm assuming you've already read through the NH Mod for the NF.

There is a little orange piece in there that has three little prong things holding it to a halo-type thing. This one of the stock air restrictors, and to make it suit your purpose, epoxy/hot glue up the three openings on the sides, and drill a hole in the middle of the air restrictor, not too big. This makes it so that the air restrictor increases air flow speed instead of restricting it. Voila!

I'd recommended cutting off the laser part ('it's so cool, though!') for holstering ease.

Hope this isn't as confusing as it looks.

Oh, and BTW, NSF is right about the bringing foam along. You have no idea how much important it is to actually try the stuff THERE. A couple feet of useless brass always reminds me of that.

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Posted 28 November 2004 - 05:36 AM

My stock barrel NFs get 60' parallel to the ground, I'm satisfied with that. Worry about adding resistance to the plunger via new spring or rubber bands, and removing the air restriction rather than putting a barrel on that thing that will slow down your reload time. That's what I would recommend.
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Posted 28 November 2004 - 09:48 AM

Agreed, especially if your a new player. I would however shave down the little raised lines in the barrel if you have darts that will properly fill the entire barrel. Good luck.
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 09:15 PM

i know this is a little off topic, but i had a few ideas 4 moddin a nite findr. if these hav been thought of alredy, im sorry, im new to modding.One idea is to saw off the ammo holders at the bottem and put one on each side, allowin u to hold four darts insted of two.also, i dont know how well it will work cuz i havnt tried it yet, but since the laser sight doesnt work so well, u could take it out, get a laser pointer and a short length of brass tube, and mount the tube on top sort of like a scope, but as close to the barrel as yu can get an put the laser inside it for more precise lasr shootin.just make sure to buy the right width pipe 4 the pointer
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 09:52 PM

Is your keyboard defunct? Or is it you?
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 09:57 PM

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:23 PM

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On topic, I never thought about using the air restrictor that way. I may try that next time instead of just drilling it out. Mine has a 4 in CPVC barrel thats "telescoped" (opened up about half-way, then closes). It's hard to get it in to the telescoped portion, but it shoots ridiculously well if you manage to get it in there.
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Posted 30 November 2004 - 12:53 AM

Well for airflow I already went to far on the modding. I took out all the airflow restrictions. So all thats left are rings. It wasn't supposed to go that far but it did. I was concerned but for me it seems to work just fine. I made my first stefans but they were too heavy with the fishing weight. I'm going to try regular bbs. I'm going to buy a stronger spring and start my barrel. I'm not sure what to use for the barrel because the hardware store I checked didn't have brass or cpvc. It's ok I have some more to check. I'd use petg but I don't want to buy 7 feet online. If I can't find anything I'll make a marker barrel. Thanks for the help.
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Posted 30 November 2004 - 10:05 AM

You REALLY want to keep that air restrictor that Air was talking about in your NF. Otherwise, there have been quite a few stories of the plunger knocking the barrel clean out of the gun. However, if you epoxy the barrel directly onto the second air restrictor thing, and then epoxy that onto the plunger tube (MAKE SURE there are no holes!), then you should be fine.

Also, what kind of fishing weights are you using? A single bb is really light for a dart, and are usually used with automatic guns or the weaker pistols.

When you buy your FBR, make sure that you buy large amounts of it, and I'm talking about at LEAST 30 feet. The reason is because many times FBR ends up changing size from different batches, and sometimes even within the same batch. You want the same size of FBR so you don't have to replace ALL your barrels if you buy fatter or thinner FBR.

Lastly, try 1/2" SCH80 pvc. It fits my darts rather well, and is really cheap.

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 03:06 PM

A single bb is really light for a dart, and are usually used with automatic guns or the weaker pistols.

i don't agree. one BB-size split shot in a 2 inch stefan performs fine in a 20 pumped LBB, ranges 100+. and they'll kill people within 40 feet from my NF.
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Posted 30 November 2004 - 03:08 PM

I'm talking about a bb. just a plain, copper bb, which is what I interpreted him to be using. A lead bb, which I assume you speak of, is heavier than a copper bb. At least if my chemistry class serves me right.

I'm going to try regular bbs.


That's mainly what I'm going off of, and when using regular bb's, I've always seen guides put 2 bb's, not one. That's why I was assuming the darts would be light, and light darts are used in the guns I mentioned. Sorry for the mixup.

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Edited by ompa, 30 November 2004 - 03:09 PM.

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 03:11 PM

*stupidface* my mistake.
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Posted 30 November 2004 - 10:38 PM

Yeah, I'm actually using regular copper BBs right now. In addition to the fact that they decrease my range by about half, I also have to stack the BBs (put more than 1 in, hopefully centered), so there is a big chance of it fishtailing. Once I get some time and an 18+ year old person to go shopping with, I'll get myself somma that steel shot.
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Posted 01 December 2004 - 06:11 PM

Do hardware stores carry springs. If I take mine and ask for a similar one will they have it.
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Posted 01 December 2004 - 06:14 PM

Yes.

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#19 jumico

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Posted 03 December 2004 - 09:00 PM

I got some pvc sch 80 and I'm not sure how to make it fit. It's too thick. It wont fit up to where I have to glue it on. How should I go about cutting? Should I just take off the grey piece that gives barrel support? What about the first spot I have to clear right where the barrel starts? Can I glue it to the existing barrel if I cut it at the first ridge? Tell me if I'm not clear.

Edited by jumico, 04 December 2004 - 12:02 AM.

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Posted 04 December 2004 - 12:10 AM

What part doesn't it fit on? Just drermel the part that it doesn't fit on so the pvc fits. A pic of what the part is and the problems you have for fitting the pvc in might help.
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Posted 04 December 2004 - 12:22 AM

I wanted to use a pic but my cameras broken. Unfortunately I dont have a dremel but I do have a knife. I figured a way out and it works.

Edited by jumico, 04 December 2004 - 01:54 AM.

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