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#1 Viper

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Posted 27 October 2004 - 01:49 PM

This is a patent by Lonnie Johnson in which a fully auto is pumped electronically via a sensor that detects a pressure deviation. swweet guuun
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Posted 27 October 2004 - 02:15 PM

Everytime I go to one of those pages I get a freeze up and a browser error.

This could be usefull to kind of spectualte any new things Hasbro is conjuring up.
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#3 okto

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Posted 27 October 2004 - 04:49 PM

can anyone say RF20? :w00t:
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#4 Viper

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Posted 27 October 2004 - 08:26 PM

Rf20 with an electronic pumping assembly
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#5 Airsoft999

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 03:16 PM

That is amazing!! I like how the turret isn't at the very top of the gun.... But I still see a pump, wouldn't it have to be internal to be self pumping? Otherwise people would run around with pumps going in and out of their guns, and using them lethally... sweet. The patent looks kewl, but it says it shoots fluid, when there is clearly a turret. Maybe another switch shot gun?
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 03:31 PM

That is amazing!! I like how the turret isn't at the very top of the gun.... But I still see a pump, wouldn't it have to be internal to be self pumping? Otherwise people would run around with pumps going in and out of their guns, and using them lethally... sweet. The patent looks kewl, but it says it shoots fluid, when there is clearly a turret. Maybe another switch shot gun?

I can think of other uses for a pump that automatically gose in and out... in and out... in and out.... :o
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#7 Airsoft999

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 03:44 PM

That is amazing!! I like how the turret isn't at the very top of the gun.... But I still see a pump, wouldn't it have to be internal to be self pumping?  Otherwise people would run around with pumps going in and out of their guns, and using them lethally... sweet.  The patent looks kewl, but it says it shoots fluid, when there is clearly a turret.  Maybe another switch shot gun?

I can think of other uses for a pump that automatically gose in and out... in and out... in and out.... :o

You mean for clotheslining people from hell?

Ohhhhhhh............... I get it............. B)
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#8 Viper

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 07:17 PM

It states that it starts pumping once the user iniated the pumping process an electronically measures the amount of air in the gun and pumps accordingly. Fluid can be either a liquid or gas and it enables them to get 2-for-1 as far as patents are concerned, so as to enable them to make a fully-auto pulsating squirt gun. I've found many designs and designers including the ultimator,secret shot 2 and many others.
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 07:34 PM

The one problem I see off the bat with ideas like this is the lack of mod potential. The more modernized and electronic a gun gets the harder it will be for us to mess with. One day we will all be hacking our nerf guns. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Ill keep my spring, thanks.
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 09:31 PM

I don't know about that fuse. In fact I think modded and unmodded ranges have increased in nerf guns since nerf moved to pump guns mainly. Just because its electronic doesn't mean we can't only mod specfic parts of it. The nightfinder is electronic and we still mod it. Spring guns are still superior in many respects, likke ease of modding.
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 10:45 PM

The Nite Finder is hardly what I would call electronic. But seriously, there is no way to change the pressure in the tank if the pump is regulated electronically. We could still mod the barrels and such, but there would be no banding of the tank, plugging the valve, etc.
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 11:06 PM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Lima Mike Foxtrot Alpha Oscar.
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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:23 PM

check the patent dates, kids. april 2002. these are not ideas for a new gun, this patent is the birth of the RF20. the electronic pumping mech was left out (probably cos it was unreliable, large, heavy, and loud), and the layout of the gun is different, but the first image in that patent writeup is the nascent WF, and the ancestor of the RF20.
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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:34 PM

We're aware of that, this is just simply a resource to see if Nerf will draw from any of the other designs on the site, so we MAY know what to expect from Nerf in the future.

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#15 Viper

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 12:52 AM

Ompa made a great point. Just because it wasn't put into manufaturing in 2002 doesn't mean nerf sdoesn't ahve planms to use it. Just as some information, the turre design was only an exap,ye of where it was applied,for the wildfire just as much similiarties as the rf20 d iowith it.
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Posted 31 October 2004 - 03:14 PM

Do you think this could be part of the RF 20 patent?

http://www.freepaten...-5709199-1.html

Edited by blink_182, 31 October 2004 - 03:15 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:55 PM

In fact it is. I beleive the select fire atttribute is pending though.
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