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#1 GCAnthem07

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Posted 06 April 2003 - 06:05 PM

I just got my BBB and I was thinking about what kind of barrel to give it. Brass is good for micro stefens, and PVC is good for stock micros. What is the best way to make a barrel that shoots both micro stefens and stock micros effectively?

Also, when you pull the BBB back to cock it, it sucks in air and sucks darts out of the barrel into the plunger. If you shoot, the dart is squished and you have to open the gun to remove the dart. Is there a way to fix this, or do I just have to cock before loading?
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Posted 06 April 2003 - 06:23 PM

this is a common problem don't worry. you could load before priming but you could also try loading the dart into the very tip of the barrel so it gets sucked in, but not too far.
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#3 cxwq

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Posted 06 April 2003 - 07:03 PM

To prevent darts being sucked back into the plunger, put a few dabs of hot glue around the inside of the back end of the barrel. Just enough to prevent the dart from passing through, not enough to restrict the air flow significantly.

To make a general purpose barrel, nest a 2.5" long crayola or brass barrel in the back end of a standard PVC barrel. Your Nerf micro performance will improve a bit and your stefan micro performance will improve a bunch. You'll also be able to shoot stefan megas in a pinch though the performance there will be sub-standard.
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Posted 07 April 2003 - 04:16 PM

cxwq had a good idea but just by taking a tacking nail, nail it through the back of the barrel. Now, there is a metal bar there preventing a dart from being sucked back.
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Posted 08 April 2003 - 07:07 PM

Or you could just stick your Crayola in the back of the BBB's original barrel, and then stick the PVC on.
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#6 GCAnthem07

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 03:40 PM

Would the nail stop a lot of airflow?
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 04:50 PM

No, but I'd be concerned about maintaining a solid seal in the barrel. What's so difficult about the hot glue option?
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 05:10 PM

Ahh, nothing really. Lazyness got the best of me. :lol:

Should a PVC or brass it? I was thinking brass now because it can still fit nerf micros, just they don't go in the whole way. What is good length? I was thinking 6".
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 05:48 PM

You're gonna need to choose your dart now.

Nerf micro: PVC, about 6"

Stefan micro: telescoped brass breech loader, 7" total

Brass sux0rz in spring guns unless you telescope it. Nerf micros sux0r in brass no matter what. If you did a brass barrel and stuck a Nerf micro in up to the tip, you'd get maybe 15'.
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 06:29 PM

Wait... I got it! In your article you said to put the telescoping brass barrel in PVC so you can attach it to a coupler, making a breech loader. Doesn't that mean I could just put in regular PVC to shoot Nerf micros?

No to be a pain in the ass, but can you give me step-by-step instuctions to do the whole thing?
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 08:17 PM

well...you put one pipe into another. then that into another. what is your question?
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 06:21 AM

How do you put the coupler on the stock barrel, and how do you make the telescoping barrel without a soldering iron?

Wait... I got it! In your article you said to put the telescoping brass barrel in PVC so you can attach it to a coupler, making a breech loader. Doesn't that mean I could just put in regular PVC to shoot Nerf micros? Will that work?
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 11:21 AM

Yes, that will work. Instructions follow in 13 easy steps.

1. Get a 1/2" PVC coupler and some 1/2" PVC.

2. Saw the original barrel down to a 1" stub.

3. Epoxy the coupler over the stub. If there's a big gap between the two, use electrical tape and hotglue instead. If it doesn't fit, sand down the outside of the stub until it does.

4. Cut two pieces of PVC, one 6" and the other 4".

5. Find the size of K&S brass that fits your darts perfectly - you want a nice sliding fit without a big gap, buy a foot of that, and a foot of one size smaller. The smaller size should not allow your dart to move unless you shove/twist the dart in with your hand.

6. The two pieces of brass should nest very precisely.

7. Cut 7" of the bigger size brass and 1/2" of the smaller size.

8. Epoxy the 1/2" piece in the end of the 7" piece.

9. Dry overnight.

10. Wrap the end with the 1/2" piece in a few layers of electrical tape, one ring right at the end and one 3" down the barrel.

11. Adjust electrical tape amount until you can just barely jam it into the 4" chunk of PVC.

12. The end of the PVC, the end of the 7" brass, and the end of the 1/2" brass should all line up.

13. Revel in the presence of the master.

You now have a convertible PVC/nested brass breech loading BBB.
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 11:42 AM

Ok, CXWQ, maybe you should copy that and put it as a new modification article. That way this question is never proposed again...
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 11:44 AM

I won't put up a mod without pics... anyone want to send me a BBB for the good of the site? ;)
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#16 GCAnthem07

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 05:40 PM

Yay! Thanks C, I wasn't quite sure what I was going to do with my BBB, mostly because I didn't know what barrel I wanted. With this I can shoot almost all dart ammo types. Now, I just need to buy:

10" long 1/2" diameter PVC
7" of "perfect" size brass
1/2" of brass 1/64" smaller in diameter (is it 1/64" or 1/32"?)
1/2" PVC coupler
Epoxy
Electrical tape

How much do yot think that will go up to?


Also, how well do BBB arrows fit over PVC?
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 07:10 PM

About $10.

You'll find K&S brass at Ace Hardware and some hobby shops. You may want to call around to make sure they have it. It comes in 1' pieces. Steelworks brass is bigger wall thickness and should be avoided but it may work for your FBR. You can find Steelworks brass at Lowes and OSH.

The arrows should fit over the 3" of exposed brass on your brass barrel.
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 11:26 PM

HEY WAIT! DON'T MOD IT YET!!!

Take lots of friggin picutres, then send'em to CXWQ, for the good of the site, please. It makes sense to me. Or you can write out the directions you have followed and create your own mod article. Uh...yeah...Please...
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#19 GCAnthem07

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 06:25 AM

Yea, I'll steal, I mean, borrow my mom's camera so I can take the pics and then scan 'em. I might have a Nerf section on my new site, but if I don't make the Nerf section, I'll probably send it to you.
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