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#1 PBZ

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:31 PM

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Cap'n Whitebeard, the E&C nerfer back again, showing off the project I have been working on since I traded for a Centurion at APOC... 16? Anyway, here goes. For those of you that were there, the monster we discussed has been born.

I am not going to make this a tutorial Ok that was the plan but it's almost there now. BUT STILL- the total cost of parts is some where around $200, and I don't expect anyone else to make one-it requires a 3D printer and a lathe. It's also not really war legal for several reasons. If you are feeling lucky (punk), then message me and I can help out with the 3D printed files. There are 6, and they took me around 25 or 30 hours total to draw up.
The goal of this project was to create a sleeper of sorts- as stock looking as possible with ridiculous amounts of power under the hood. So forget war-legal, that always means singled titan. Which I have plenty of parts for. Don't judge, it was a phase. I bought every titan I could get my hands on.
So, listed in no particular order, with pics at the end:

 

BATTERIES

The batteries are in a 3D printed box (the black one in front of the trigger), installed in a battery tray I bought online. It has a clip that keeps the tray in, but bends for tray removal. There is enough wire at the top to pull it out a couple inches. The batteries are 26650's, so... 7.2v @3500 mAh? Something like that. The install of the box required a lot of cutting, and then rebuilding the interior of the shell to a shelf that i could glue the box to. Enter epoxy putty and 2 part epoxy.

In the picture below, ignore the hose, gauge, and ducttape. That all got changed in a redesign. The ducttape was wrapped around a hose clamp because it kept trying to cut me.

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PUMP

This was bought at the Mart of Walls for around $15. Cheapest one on the shelf. Pulled apart, fits almost perfectly in the stock, minimal shell cutting. Made me very happy.

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PRESSURE STUFF

The NC pressure switch and the new gauge were purchased from McMaster. Switch is adjustable, with lowest setting around 35 psi, which is plenty of power for drywall not expecting a shot (more on that later). Max is beyond what I would ever set it at. Most of the tubing is repurposed from the pump. The hose to the gauge is different for more flexibility. The barbed T fittings are also from McMaster, and were trimmed to the first barb because space and then hose clamped because safety and leaks.

 

BUSINESS MIDDLE

The connection and slide from the tank forward is 1 inch schd 40 pvc. I know this ends up killing some power, but come on, its a singled titan. The only way around this is to have the tank slide back and forth and be directly connected to the dart chamber. Too much work.

The dart chamber and sled are 3D printed, then welded together. I will probably put a pin in it at some point for piece of mind on the connection. The two parts took most of the CAD time listed above.

The new trigger pull attaches to the original trigger in the same way, then goes up to hook on the firing pin of the tank. It uses the original slide pins to operate, though the shell around them was reinforced due to twisting from forces.

 

BUSINESS END

The original barrel is way too big, so I simply put some 3/4 pvc down it. It has some wrapped ducttape spacers to keep it centered and is glued in place. It actually extends all the way into the blaster to sit right up against the short section that houses the dart tooth. Final length to be determined, it was just something I had laying around and I didn't feel like cutting it down at the time. I will probably cut it to match the length of the stock blaster to hide it.

 

SO... SPECS?

Yeah I have no idea. I don't have a chrony, but from 15 or so feet at 35psi the trigger gets pulled and there is a flash of red and then there is a dent in the drywall. It was pretty much instant. I'm betting on 250 plus/minus 10 because of my paintball experience. I have not pumped the gun any higher than the 35ish psi, I only got it done last night. I will be testing it more thoroughly at some point soon (like probably tomorrow). I expect decent ranges. AKA I'll wreck North Korea's shit from my back porch.

OTHER STUFF (and answering questions before they come up)
The stock ammo is modified so I can reuse it.

No, it's not weighted, just filled.

Yes, I will bring it to wars. Probably won't be allowed to use it.
No, I don't plan on posting the 3D printed files. I don't trust the Great American Public.

Yes, I plan on shooting more drywall and other shit laying around to measure destructive capability.

Yes, I plan on privately testing more dangerous ammo.

No, you may not come watch or take part. I mean, alright yeah. Message me if you live nearby. Don't tell anyone.

No, it's not for sale.

No, I wont make you one. See point 4.

 

Thanks for reading, and I'll see you all at the next E or C event I get to.

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#2 Silly

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:27 AM

Dang it! I have a build in process with the exact same setup but with 2 titan tanks. Now im worried that I will look like im copying you!


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:02 AM

Dang it! I have a build in process with the exact same setup but with 2 titan tanks. Now im worried that I will look like im copying you!


Yep, you're copying him. Can't have two identical builds in the wild, so you've got to be stopped.
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#4 Silly

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:13 AM

Yep, you're copying him. Can't have two identical builds in the wild, so you've got to be stopped.

Will I be executed publicly on a NH livestream, with captain slug and you sipping my blood from wine glasses?


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#5 Draconis

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:27 PM

Will I be executed publicly on a NH livestream, with captain slug and you sipping my blood from wine glasses?

 

Nerd blood is more of a chilled mug kind of beverage.


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#6 PBZ

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:15 PM

Dang it! I have a build in process with the exact same setup but with 2 titan tanks. Now im worried that I will look like im copying you!

Yep- copycat. Actually, two titan tanks would be an interesting design, since linking them through the open ports at the back of the tank wont work- not enough flow. how were you planning on doing that? One tank barely fits in the shell width wise, and it take up the entire center section. or is your pump/hand pump outside the shell?

 

 

Nerd blood is more of a chilled mug kind of beverage.

I do love my chilled mug beverages...


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#7 thedom21

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 01:28 PM

I'm interested to see a video of how it all works together. Is the breech automated or do you cycle it by hand? 


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#8 Silly

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 04:38 PM

Yep- copycat. Actually, two titan tanks would be an interesting design, since linking them through the open ports at the back of the tank wont work- not enough flow. how were you planning on doing that? One tank barely fits in the shell width wise, and it take up the entire center section. or is your pump/hand pump outside the shell?

Im not keeping the clip-system. Instead im  using 2 breaches. I have 2 titan tanks and an air compressor. I have done a lot to the design since the picture, including starting the process of integrating the (pictured) stryfe handle into the titan, replacing the stock handle. This is being done so I can use the air compressor easily by just pressing down the rev button from the stryfe.

 

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 07:15 PM

I'm working on a similar project, what size hose barbs did you use? Also, where did you come up with $200 for parts? Mine cost less than $100 and It's completely homemade. (To be fair, I did have some stuff lying around that I'm not including in my price figure)


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 10:38 PM

UPDATE:

So the whole systems seems to work as intended, though the slop leads to needing to hold the clip in so that the dart chamber doesn't jamb on the edge of it. That slight little bit is messing with me. Not sure how I'm going to fix it yet, until I open up the blaster again.
In terms of firing power, its a lot less than I thought. On par with stefan blasters, possibly even slightly less due to the difference in less forward-weighted darts. I am going to open it all up and do some sealing work around some of the air joints that are lowering my seal- the dart chamber to pvc is a sloppy fit (getting too gungho on the lathe), and I want to look at the front of the dart chamber and see if I can add some foam or something to better seal the chamber to the barrel. I may consider removing that and custom cutting the pvc to seal to the chamber without the intermediary.

 

 

thedom21- breech works in the usual manner of a regular blaster, rather than the convoluted crap that previously filled this one. manual back and forth. because of the seriously shortened breech length, I printed a filler that fits in the slide cutout and blocks the handle from returning too far (which wasn't really a problem but in the final painted version it will help pull the blaster together as a single piece).

 

Silly- "two breeches"... sooooo... doubled singled titan running off one pump? Also that's definitely the same pump I used. Fits great eh? Though it looks like you moved yous up slightly to not to cut the shell?
You would be better off just installing the second trigger switch in the centurion rather than trying to franken a new handle in just for that. Mine is currently inside the thumb hole stock, but I plan on moving it when I next open the blaster to do some work, probably the same way. I will probably get rid of the auto fill feature and move to a momentary switch.

Chikun- The hose barbs are whatever size needed for the pump hose, which happens to be 3/16ths now that I looked up my order. They were ordered specifically for that hose. The price is probably more based off prices from a year ago, but: Cent= $60, pump= $15 mcmaster parts= $40+shipping, printed parts (purchase price, because not everyone owns their own printer)= $50-60 (or, that's what I would probably charge for them all, which is probably lower than others), assorted materials (duct tape, epoxy putty, 2pE, goop, sandpaper, etc)= $30. Right around 200 there.
"Completely homemade" is a different genre altogether. I wanted to put mine in a cent, and I got it in a trade at APOC.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:51 PM

Cent= $60, pump= $15 mcmaster parts= $40+shipping, printed parts (purchase price, because not everyone owns their own printer)= $50-60 (or, that's what I would probably charge for them all, which is probably lower than others), assorted materials (duct tape, epoxy putty, 2pE, goop, sandpaper, etc)= $30. Right around 200 there.

 

Right, I'm not using a Cent, I'm leaving all of the 2pE, sandpaper, goop, and whatnot out of my figures because I already have it, and I'm also not using any 3d printed stuff. Yeah, the way you have it set up, over $200 for sure.


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