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#1 Oroku Saki

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 06:19 PM

I know many of you do own Ipods, however I have always been pretty questionable when it comes to buying one myself, based on what I have heard about them. I mean, the Fairplay controls alone make me want to puke. It seems that anything you buy off of the iTunes store can be used on the iPod, and only the iPod. You can't load your purchased tracks on any other music player, and it is difficult to upload any other file obtained elsewhere onto the iPod.

After seeing the following video, it brought me over the line where I will most likely never buy one. http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

If you are an Ipod owner, I would like to hear about your experiences with them, or to correct my statements if I happen to be wrong.

At this point, I think that I will stick to a regular mp3 player that has the potential to be more functional.
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#2 LiKnSmAkScOmIn

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 06:26 PM

Boy, if that's true, iPods blow.
Thank god for my Sony Atrac3plus cd player which can compress 400 songs on 1 cd :blush:
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Posted 20 August 2004 - 06:44 PM

You could try this:http://store.yahoo.com/planetminidisc/pmp-120.html. You can download music files onto it from anywhere! You don't need a PC (no, not powerclip). Heh.
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#4 CustomSnake202

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 06:48 PM

I was wondering why no one has posted this in the previous iPod discussions. First off, that video is pretty old. I remember seeing that like six months ago. I highly doubt that that is still a problem with the third generation iPods. This person said he got his iPod about eighteen months ago, making it a year and six months. So this whole problem took place over two years ago. Plus the video doesn't mention what gen ipod it was, but it had to of been second or first.

I've had my pod for a little over a year now and I have not had any problems. I've only dropped it from about three feet onto wood flooring and it did not effect it any. I think that apple's iPods will just get better and better; a battery failure in that period of time does not seem likely at all with the new pods. But if you really want to know about it, call apple and see what they have to say about the battery life. Don't think that iPods suck, cause they don't.

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And about the iTunes thing, you should be able to put an iTunes mp3 on any mp3 player. I mean, it's an mp3, why wouldn't be able to? When you buy a song from iTunes, you can give that mp3 to five different users maximum and they need your password to activate those songs.
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#5 Airsoft999

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 06:50 PM

I still the iRiver PMP-120 is better... even though it hasen't been released yet :blush:.
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#6 Oroku Saki

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 07:01 PM

And about the iTunes thing, you should be able to put an iTunes mp3 on any mp3 player. I mean, it's an mp3, why wouldn't be able to? When you buy a song from iTunes, you can give that mp3 to five different users maximum and they need your password to activate those songs.

It still seems a little restrictive to me for how the files can be transferred. When I shop for an electronics product, the main criteria that I use is functionality and usefulness of the item, not to mention potential for upgrades and other modifications. I have heard that the iPod's media files are not the same as mp3's.

Thanks for pointing out that Apple (hopefully) fixed the battery problem that was addressed in the video.
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#7 CustomSnake202

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 07:10 PM

I just rembered something. When you buy a song from iTunes, it comes in an acc format. You can easily convert it into a mp3. I forgot to mention that, Oroku_Saki.
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Posted 20 August 2004 - 08:53 PM

That was a problem with the old ipods... all of them.

The newest ipods do not share the same problem, however after seeing apple dick that many people over, I wouldn't buy an ipod.
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#9 perfectoon 0901

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 08:54 PM

why don't you get a Sony NW-HD1, it's the "iPod killer" they say. It has 20 gigs, 30 hrs of batter life, and any mp3 will work (it will convert it to a Atrac3 file, but thats really easy)

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#10 Ash

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 09:10 PM

I have a lot of trouble trusting sony these days. The new MP3 (well, ATRAC player) does look pretty cool, however.
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#11 Oroku Saki

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 10:27 PM

I never knew that Apple's acc files could be converted into mp3, but I guess I was wrong.

The other thing that I find interesting about even the newer iPods is the fact that they can store about 10,000 tracks. Who the fuck has that kind of money (do the math at .99 per track) to blow on filling up their iPod? Maybe the people who are making money on the iPod itself (Apple and the record company execs), or possibly the RIAA reps and the politicians they sponsor. Obviously, there is no way in hell that the average person would be willing or even able to spend 10 grand for a shitload of music. If Apple and Big Music's goal is to get every iPod owner to fill up their iPods, I wonder what they were smoking when they came up with that goal?

Even though I am usually negative about the iPod, I do believe that it is the step in the right direction to get rid of the older mafia-like business practices of the record industry. I simply think that they still have a ways to go to be able to accomplish this, whether they are aware of it or not.
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#12 Ash

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 10:41 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but Ipods do play MP3 files as well, don't they?
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Posted 20 August 2004 - 10:58 PM

Awhile ago in PC Magazine, they gave a tutorial on how to replace the battery yourself.. I'll see if i can find it and get a scan of it..
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Posted 20 August 2004 - 11:49 PM

Awhile ago in PC Magazine, they gave a tutorial on how to replace the battery yourself.. I'll see if i can find it and get a scan of it..

Yeah, I saw that... pm me and I can give you the scan.
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Posted 21 August 2004 - 12:01 AM

I have an iPod myself, and i think it works just fine. I dont use iTunes though (wich is evil). Real player is like 10 times better and half the price and...works with ipods!!! There are also third party programs that allow users to add and remove music files from there ipod without itunes complaining about something.

Here is a link to some useful software
ipod software
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#16 JSkater

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 10:59 AM

Yeah, I saw that... pm me and I can give you the scan.

Nah, don't worry about it, I was just trying to help out. I don't even have an iPod, anyways.
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Posted 23 August 2004 - 02:09 AM

The gigabeat is also better than the ipod. http://www.toshiba.c...0j/products.htm

Personally, I'm waiting for the PSP.
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