I started nerfing 2-3 months ago, when I took my friend's Secret Shot 2. I started looking into nerfing and, a month later, proceeded to mod and repaint the SS2, along with his three other guns.
Naturally I wanted more. I recently have come up with a couple of ideas to make some cool homemade guns. I am going for looks, as well as performance. My first idea was to build a powerful gun that looked like a real loser rifle. For this I chose the Steyr Scout. It would give me enough room to give it a pretty big tank with an external pump system.
After making a sketch, with a lot of extra room left over, I proceeded to think of ways to make this better, such as multiple tanks, a semi-automatic firing chamber, and an integrated pump system, while still keeping the original shape of the Steyr Scout. I will get back to the Scout later.
I knew I was going to end up messing everything up, so I decided to make a smaller handgun where I can test out some things, without just jumping into the big gun and killing it. For the handgun, I chose the Desert Eagle. It will provide a lot of space for all of its innards (approximate dimensions):
10.75” in length
6.25” in height
1.25” in width
.495” (.5”) bore
This is where questions arise.
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The Desert Eagle:
The air tank will probably be 1” PVC pipe that is around 6” in height. (Question #1) Would this tank be too small? I am going for a pretty good range, but don’t expect it to be that high for a handgun.
The pump would be an external bike/basketball pump that attaches to the bottom of the handle. From the air tank, it will go to one of Zero’s basic valves. It looks like it would work pretty well and the placement is right for a trigger. (Questions #2 and 3) Anyone have any experience with this valve? And what type of tubing should I use to connect the air tank to the valve? I am thinking of using vinyl tubing but have no idea of what width would be best.
For the barrel, I am using a crayola barrel and .5” PVC piping attached with a 3/4” to 1/2” PVC coupler. For simplicity’s sake, I will just load the darts ramrod style.
(Question #4) I will probably be using plexiglass for the casing because it is easy to use and shape with a dremel. If anyone has any suggestions for a better casing, I am open to opinions.
Onto the Scout:
Currently, the most efficient design one would be single big air tank pumped by an external pump. Although it would be nice, I don’t want those extra tanks if I can’t get strong shots with each tank. (Question #5) Is bigger better? I would rather power/range/accuracy than the ability to fire multiple shots but if there is a definite cap on how big the tank should be, I may want to try adding at least a backup/extra shot.
In the first sketch, I used a really long barrel. I realize now that it was nearly 2 feet in length. I have gone down quite a bit to around 18”. (Question #6) Would this still be too long? I think if the air tank was powerful enough, and since I am using Zero darts, it doesn’t seem that it wouldn’t matter much. I want to keep it around the middle somewhat so where the bullets are loaded is in the approximate location of where they are ejected on the real rifle.
I think I am okay for now with nearly everything else. I am using a breech loading system, probably fed from the side so it doesn’t interfere with the scope. I will probably use a thread scope because it will be easy to make and it is just for show anyways. I haven’t decided yet on an integrated pump, it would be possible and I could live with or without it. With it would require the air tank to be in the butt of the rifle, which isn’t a bad idea anyways. This only means long tubing back and forth (at 6-12” in length.) I assume this isn’t really a good thing. (Question #7)Comments?
Remember, I am going for looks as well as performance, I want to keep the gun looking a bit realistic. I have some other ideas that I can’t remember at the moment. I am open to all opinions.
Pictures and sketches:
Steyr Scout: Take 1
So many flaws, but it was a good starting idea. I dropped the Semi-automatic firing valve because I can't see how it would work effectively without depressurizing the air tanks too fast. The dual air tank is not a bad idea, though. I just don't know if they really need to be that huge.
Steyr Scout: Take 2
From those thoughts I dsigned the second scout, which I don't like at all. I am not sure how the 5 tubing to one selector thing would work, or anything else on it for that matter. I know I could figure it out if I tried hard enough. I just don't really like this one because of all the tubing and puny air tanks. It seems exessive and wasteful.
Steyr Scout: Take 3
This one has an integrated pump and one air tank, which is still a good idea in fact. The bottom front of the gun would detach somehow so I can pump the pump. This picture is innacurate as the pump would be moved farther forward to get more out of each pump. The idea seems pretty positive, hold the fact that I might have the same lengthy tubing problems that Take 2 would have had. On the plus side, I could probably design it so the integrated pump hooked onto the air tank externally so I could pump the Deagle from the Scout. Not a bad idea, supposing I could figure it out. Right now, this is my prime working idea.
Desert Eagle: Take 1
This is probably the idea I am going with for now. I am not sure of any of the lengths yet, but the air tank can be anywhere up to 6" of 1" PVC and the barrel can be at least 4". I don't know of the best diameter of vinyl tubing to use either. Otherwise, It seems like a pretty solid plan and so far I can't figure out any problems.
(Thanks to Vintage for explaning how to submit pictures.)
Edited by Zyzybalooba, 16 August 2004 - 08:24 PM.