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#1 levion689

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 06:04 PM

If I decide to remove the dart pegs, will my dart be loose and fall out of the barrel? What are the dart pegs for anyway ? They don't seem to be touching the nerf darts at all. 
 
 
So for this BB mod for Strongarm, you will need to remove the dart pegs of the barrels as shown in the image below.

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  So I have this planned carefully but I'm not sure how well it works because I haven't received my BB pellets yet. So here's the plan, you cut off the orange rubber tip of the Elite nerf darts. Now, you are left with the blue tube foam. Then load the blue tubes into the barrel as if you would normally load darts into the Strongarm barrel. Hot glue the blue foam tubes in the Strongarm Barrel so that they won't move. You should now have hollow blue foam tubes glued inside the Strongarm barrel. Make sure you don't cover the blue foam tube holes with glue because that is where the BB pellets should go in. I have measured the Elite Darts tube holes, it is approx. 6mm in diameter, thus I have ordered both 6mm and 7mm BB pellets from Amazon. Also, load the BB pellets from the back of the barrel, not the front. 
 
 
My prediction is that 7mm pellets will be more powerful as it has a snug fit to the dart holes as compared to 6mm pellets. It will be also MUCH more powerful than regular Elite dart shots because the dart holes are much smaller compared to the Strongarm Barrel hole. Since the Blue Foam Dart is hot glued to the Strongarm Barrel, all of the air pressure is going to focus on the tiny little hole from the dart hole which is where the BB pellets are. So shots are going to be much more powerful and accurate considering you are using BB pellets instead of the inconsistent Elite Darts. Also worth mentioning that I ordered steel carbon BB pellets instead of plastic ones because steel ones are heavier giving the projectile more stability in mid air.

 

 

I have done researches of how the Elite Strongarm shooting mechanism works, and I really think this particular nerf gun will actually work very well with BBs. So why 7mm instead of a 6mm BB pellet ? The Elite Strongarm firing mechanism actually seals the Barrel after you pull your trigger. It all happens very quickly, you can try pulling the trigger while looking at the side of your gun, you will notice a cylinder popping out, reaching towards the end of the Strongarm barrel right before it pops the air. So with almost no air pressure lost, a snug fit 7mm BB pellet should deliver the maximum power compared to 6mm. However this is just my predictions. The 7mm pellet might get stucked in the blue foam hence why I bought the 6mm pellet as well.

 

 

Elite Strongarm Plunger Tube Air Seal to Barrel Video Link @ 5:50minutes : 

 

 

If anyone actually tried this mod before let me know because I haven't actually seen this Mod anywhere before.

 

 

PS: That image wasn't mine. Taken from another post.


Edited by levion689, 30 June 2016 - 06:19 PM.

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#2 LordGiratia

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 08:20 PM

Overall if your just doing this mod just to target practice, use a cycloneshock because other than not having slamfire it has a larger plunger and slightly longer barrels. If your planning to use this in a war because of the possible advantages please do not, bb's will cause intense pain and even bleeding.


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Posted 30 June 2016 - 09:31 PM

Lord Draconical actually made a video a long time ago about using BBs in any nerf gun with a 1/2" CPVC coupler. The basic premise is to glue a length of straw (the wider ones you get at places like subway) into the foam. Unless it's just for fun I wouldn't recommend doing this mod, especially because you will semi-permanently convert a perfectly good nerf gun into a pretty terrible airsoft gun that can't compete on either field.  


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#4 levion689

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 09:32 PM

Overall if your just doing this mod just to target practice, use a cycloneshock because other than not having slamfire it has a larger plunger and slightly longer barrels. If your planning to use this in a war because of the possible advantages please do not, bb's will cause intense pain and even bleeding.

 

Cycloneshock won't work because the cylinder barrel doesn't drop out. It works better to be able to rear load the BBs otherwise, I would need to use stick to push the BB deeper into the barrel. Also the Cycloneshock is a mega ? I haven't seen a normal one yet (could have never existed anyway). Mega cycloneshock have much larger darts which means the BB would be too small to even fire. Lastly, I don't play Nerf War, wasn't the kind of my thing I guess lol. I'm very new to Nerf guns but I don't plan on shooting anyone with it other than myself. It will be mostly used in long distance target practice or maybe killing some critters. 


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#5 levion689

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 09:35 PM

Lord Draconical actually made a video a long time ago about using BBs in any nerf gun with a 1/2" CPVC coupler. 

 

 

Do you have the link for that video ? 

 

EDIT : Okay I just watched the video. Honestly I think he did a pretty bad job at this LOL. The BB pellet was never meant to be placed right in front of a gun's barrel, it never should. It is mainly because he used the wrong type of gun for this mod. Given the amount of modding he did with the extended pipe and sealing, I am 100% sure it isn't air leak proof. I'm not saying the Strongarm is air-leak proof, but the Strongarm has better mechanism for that. With this mod, the plunger is sitting right at the back of the barrel where the BB is placed. Yes it makes a terrible airsoft gun but it will be better than a nerf gun shooting an inaccurate dart. Well unless you plan on shooting friends then I guess this mod isn't for you. But I'm very sure it makes good for target practicing.


Edited by levion689, 30 June 2016 - 09:47 PM.

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#6 The2ndBluesBro

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 09:38 PM

 

 

Do you have the link for that video ? 

Yeah https://www.youtube....h?v=KZsJIIB_HyI


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#7 Vexal

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 12:00 AM

The point of the dart pegs is to not allow foreign objects into the barrel, such as batteries, etc.
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Posted 01 July 2016 - 11:52 AM

If your planning to use this in a war because of the possible advantages please do not, bb's will cause intense pain and even bleeding.

 
And yet, Airsoft exists. I've played it, and have never bled from a hit.
 
The trick here is to use plastic BB's commonly used in Airsoft, and not metal hunting BB's. Not sure if they make them in that caliber anyway, so it might be a difficult mistake to make.
 

Lord Draconical actually made a video a long time ago about using BBs in any nerf gun with a 1/2" CPVC coupler. The basic premise is to glue a length of straw (the wider ones you get at places like subway) into the foam. Unless it's just for fun I wouldn't recommend doing this mod, especially because you will semi-permanently convert a perfectly good nerf gun into a pretty terrible airsoft gun that can't compete on either field.

The coupler sounds wasteful. On paper, any Nerf Blaster should make a great airsoft gun, because the plunger tubes are comparatively giant. Not sure about OP's use of foam as a barrel material though,and the straw only might be better.

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#9 levion689

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Posted 03 July 2016 - 09:23 PM

The point of the dart pegs is to not allow foreign objects into the barrel, such as batteries, etc.

 

Thanks for clarifying, I always thought it is to hold the darts in place.

 

 
And yet, Airsoft exists. I've played it, and have never bled from a hit.
 
The trick here is to use plastic BB's commonly used in Airsoft, and not metal hunting BB's. Not sure if they make them in that caliber anyway, so it might be a difficult mistake to make.
 

 

There are many types of BB guns, Air powered , Electric powered and the common spring loaded ones. A high powered air / electric BB gun with high joules can pierce through your skin from 20 meters away. I've seen serious Airsoft injuries before but not in an airsoft battle, as there are restrictions for your guns so they can't be too powerful. Spring loaded BB guns are powerful too like this one here -> http://www.pyramydai...yder_BB_gun/271


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