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#1 Wads15

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Posted 23 February 2016 - 04:07 PM

Hi all! I'm an ancient Nerfer from the NerfOnline and NerfHQ glory days. I made this NH account when I was 13 years old. I'm now 27. And that itch to Nerf just won't go away.... Jesus I'm old.

 

All of the guns are spring-loaded now?! Guns have electronics and motors wtf? Has anyone utilized 3D printing?! I have so many questions.

 

But first-- What's your gun of choice for basic modding? I'm looking for something powerful and *accurate* that will leave a real welt. ROF doesn't matter to me-- whatever is beastly.

 

Currently I have these with basic AR & spring mods:

Sharpfire 5kg spring

Big Shock 5kg spring & crayola (crayola FTW)

 

 

 

It's so much fun being an adult with cash and time to splurge on this shit. Cheers everybody.

 

 

 

 

 


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#2 The2ndBluesBro

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Posted 23 February 2016 - 04:24 PM

Available in stores right now, the buzz bee sentinel is a great choice. If you buy them secondhand, the buzz bee big blast (4B), ultimate missile blast (UMB), mega missile (MM) and blastzooka (XBZ) are great. The sentinel is spring power and the others mentioned are airguns. Homemades are dominant in NIC wars now and 3D printed parts are becoming very popular, especially within the stock-class community. You probably missed the longshot, and magazine fed blasters in general.

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Posted 23 February 2016 - 05:31 PM

I recommend checking out homemades like the snapbow and stuff. If you want to commission a homemade, look at Mostly Harmless Arms or for someone else that produces them. For stock class, check out the rapidstrike, demolisher, and the stryfe. Even the longshot is still a viable platform and it's spring powered.


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Posted 23 February 2016 - 09:34 PM

I really like my Buzz Bee Air Max Baron. I put brass barrels on it for elite darts and now it shoots a good, straight distance, but is not hard-hitting. If you are looking for a homemade, I would suggest the Snapbow Mk. V (http://nerfhaven.com...w-mk-v-revised/). It has a lot of power, actually a little too much for me.


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Consider this: Why have welt-leaving blasters that ruin the beauty of the original blaster?
I hate mods that destroy the plastic case of a nerf blaster.
Most all stock attachments suck, so make your own.

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Posted 23 February 2016 - 10:28 PM

I recommend the buzzbee air warriors s-n-i-p-e. you can really pump that gun up, and as long as rate of fire doesn't matter to you can really pump up the spring without breaking the gun (no reinforcements needed). there are basicly no tutorials on the subject but it is pretty easy to open up and mod. also just a heads up, the blue thing on the handle of the gun must be removed because there are 2 screws under it. by the way i said s-n-i-p-e because if you dont put the dashes it changes the word to eat shit for some reason no idea why.


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Posted 24 February 2016 - 12:28 AM

i recommend a singled Sledefire with a good air seal like this one :  or a brassed sentinel works well to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-qzBPhF1gg if you want something that will be a bit less powerful but have a greater ROF i suggest looking at this youtube channel for various mods on flywheel blasters https://www.youtube..../MakeTestBattle


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Posted 24 February 2016 - 09:20 AM

I finally picked up a sharpfire (as I see you have) and I'm really liking it.

I'm looking to follow Cartaya's modifications for it, to see if I can turn it into a sexy powerhouse of a pistol.

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#8 Wads15

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 01:17 PM

Word-- thanks everyone for the recs!

 

One more question-- is there a good source for springs? I see people really going to town with 10kg+. Is there a particular website or page with gun+springs compatibility? 

 

I'll be looking into those Buzzbee blasters and that Sledge.

 

I also love how people are making a little bit of money by selling modded guns/ kits/ homemades. Love that entrepreneurship. 

 

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#9 The2ndBluesBro

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 01:58 PM

One more question-- is there a good source for springs? I see people really going to town with 10kg+. Is there a particular website or page with gun+springs compatibiliy?


Orange mod works sells springs for specific blasters, as well as hobbymods (oznerfnerd). However, even though there is no compatibility list, McMasterCarr is the best source for springs. The best ones (at least the most used, anyway) are the [k26] and [k25] springs, but I can't remember the full part numbers offhand (they're called that since it's the last 3 digits in the part #)

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 04:18 PM

9637K26
9637K25

Also Hillman spring #62, which may be available at your local Ace, Busy Beaver, or other hardware store (do they have Busy Beavers outside of Southwest PA?). Cut it shorter and it'll fit in that Sharpfire.

And the Ace #49 was a popular choice for some spring pistols like the Nitefinder.

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#11 Wads15

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 11:42 AM

Fantastic. Thanks everybody!


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 04:12 PM

The  century spring corporation c836 spring is really cheap and works well in the sledge fire otherwise I’m not sure as i haven’t built one YET (you can get the c836 on amazon for about 4 bucks american) 


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 10:37 AM

Holy fuck dude, you've been out of the game for a while huh? Don't forget the eyepro. 
ALSO IT'S A BLASTER!! (say that for safety in public at least. Blaster in the streets, and gun in sheets)

There are terms to define categories. Superstock or SAMBO is mostly stock blasters with certain mods, usually full length darts but generally under 150 FPS. NIC/homemades/DIY class (<-Fucking hate that term) are homemades, and those consist of building (mostly) everything, even the darts (stefans).

Alright, so there's a lot of stuff you missed. TaoBao and other china parts are major playors in the superstock class.

You can source (from China through TaoBao, Aliexpress, Ebay and more)

-tactical parts (aesthetic conversions, scopes, replacement handguard) 

-cheap darts (in many varieties that differ by brand that determine good it is) 

-upgrade parts (replacement bolt sled, plunger head flywheel motors)

-magazines (nerf style and banana)

-Conversion kits (makes blaster pump action/bolt action, mega blasters can have removable elite dart barrels)

 

 

3D printing is a major factor too now, lots of people print accesories, (holsters, sights, grips, aesthetic pieces, even some internal parts)
However I highly don't reccomend 3D printing parts put under stress if you play actively since they commonly break. If you can make that part, or if it's ciritical piece (such as a plunger head or gear) you especially shouldn't print that piece)

Flywheels and shitspamming has dominated the hobby, in superstock (modified stock class) They are 2 spinning wheels going forward, and they spin fast. A pusher mech pushs the dart to go through the wheels, pushing it at the speed. This gives semi auto and full auto with a loud annoying motor spins, and combined with cheap china darts that can be 3 cents (USD) each, shitspamming is promoted. Superstock games usually have some flywheels, and the same concept is applied. 

Homemades if you're interested, have evolved so fast. I believe they standardized dart length to 1/2 in diameter and 1.25-1.5 in length. There are lots of entirely built at home blasters, common designs being a Snap or a rainbow design, which is still evolving. A lot of blasters are pump action and have adapted the hopper concept, which is similar to a paintballs hopper but with a lot less dart. Put these 2 things together and it also creates rapid fire and sometimes shitspamming. (Shitspamming isn't as promoted since you don't want to lose the darts when you spent 3-5 minutes making each of them) There is also air power, such as the 4B (BuzzBeeBigBlast) and similar variants to get higher power and FPS but sacrificing ROF. 

 

A brief history of NIC, is that Homemades and superstock were combined, but split off when some people wanted more stock stuff, and the arms race in homemades brought people from converting things like the Lanyard shotgun and Kenner crossbow to more powerful blasters, than replacing plunger tubes leading to the plus bow. Snap and rainbow design had been made to be a pull back (simplest of mechanisms), and than soon after Pumpsnaps and Rainbow pumps were made. Than people wanted to compact them because they're really long, and people started making them bulpup designs (Drevs bulpup, Xellahs work, ESLT and now PCSRT) which is where we are now. ( I am missing a lot, this is brief so please feel free to add on)
Sometings also missed, we went from speedloader barrels adn breeches, to turrets, to RSCBs and now hoppers

 

Modding potential. For superstock, a Buzzbee sentinel is where you start, it's cheap, you can brass it and it's a very cheap blaster (15 USD) I DO NOT RECCOMEND SINGLED ANYTHING, because people shitspam. A springer and a flywheel to understand how everything works would be good to learn how stuff works. 

Springs can be sourced on ebay, taobao, McMasterCarr, orange modworks if you have to, Home depot, Lowes, Ace, any local hardware store really. 

I would like to see more homemades, but eh it's ok if you're not doing it. I don't know where you're located so I don't know what groups are near you, there's a lot of FB groups and stuff which may have a local group, but you can try using the warlist on the home page to find stuff local. 


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Posted 13 March 2016 - 08:21 AM

I say get a retaliator, unscrew the back half of the blaster and swap out the spring for a 5kg and your done :)


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Posted 18 March 2016 - 04:58 PM

I say get a retaliator, unscrew the back half of the blaster and swap out the spring for a 5kg and your done :)

And thats how you break your retaliator. You would most likely crack your plunger head. I would recommend to get orange mod works stage 1 and 2.


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Posted 18 March 2016 - 08:49 PM

And thats how you break your retaliator. You would most likely crack your plunger head. I would recommend to get orange mod works stage 1 and 2.

No, fucking no. Jesus christ dude, the plunger rod breaks if you take out the AR. OMW kits suckkk and cost a lot. Stage 2 is kinda worth the reinforcements but you can get Worker replacements parts.


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Posted 18 March 2016 - 09:25 PM

It's sort of obvious that that will not crack your plunger head unless you take out the AR, jack up the spring, and dry fire the blaster 10 times. Also, just get the worker parts. I think they're better, and pretty sure they're a bit also cheaper. OMW stuff is okay, sure, but worker stuff is better. If you want my advice, get the worker stuff.
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