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I've found this helpful with the blaster's accuracy issues

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#1 n3rfop007

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 11:55 PM

I, like many, am a big fan of the features and performance of the Cycloneshock. It's look triggers a menacing grin on my face, it's power and distance keeps my eyes widened, and the whistling of the darts in the air sends chills. But one flaw that is common in this blaster is its sometimes unpredictable inaccuracy. I've been shooting at a large wall in my yard , and noticed how the darts react from different distances. About 10 feet at least from the wall, the darts landed very close to my target. As I stepped back and shot farther away, the darts curved more to the mid/lower left.

I watched an episode of MythBusters testing the possibility of curving a bullet by shooting a gun with a swift passing motion of the arm. In their case, they couldn't curve a real bullet. I couldn't curve the dart, but I did end up increasing the accuracy of the dart's direction. 25 feet from the wall, I stood with the gun held behind the top of my head, made a swift gesture downward, and with proper timing the dart spiraled as it shot straight at my target.

So for those quick hand renegades out there, if you need to pull out your Cycloneshock behind a barricade for a distant shot, this may be the technique for you.

I will post specific logs of my data if requested.

Edited by n3rfop007, 01 July 2015 - 11:56 PM.

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#2 Langley

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 09:06 AM

I will post specific logs of my data if requested.


Yeah, I think anyone who reads this is going to be pretty skeptical of your claims.
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Posted 03 July 2015 - 11:10 AM

I watched an episode of MythBusters testing the possibility of curving a bullet by shooting a gun with a swift passing motion of the arm. In their case, they couldn't curve a real bullet. I couldn't curve the dart, but I did end up increasing the accuracy of the dart's direction. 25 feet from the wall, I stood with the gun held behind the top of my head, made a swift gesture downward, and with proper timing the dart spiraled as it shot straight at my target.


This makes no logical sense. Whilst you are bringing the blaster downward the dart is staying still, which means upon release the dart isn't spiraling because it has no force rotating it. So yes, please do give your data logs.

Edited by Tobias, 03 July 2015 - 11:13 AM.

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 10:18 PM

It's look triggers a menacing grin on my face, it's power and distance keeps my eyes widened, and the whistling of the darts in the air sends chills.


The Cycloneshock is simply not designed for accuracy, as you indicate above. Its power, combined with the tiny "barrel" means that inaccuracy will always be a problem. The whistle is innately inaccurate, even with the improvement of two holes. Any tendencies you have observed will be due to systematic error (That is, some flaw in the design causes darts fired from that particular model to leave the barrel in a particular way more often than usual). One of the greatest mistakes made in nerf "science" is using tiny sample sizes. Try firing 10 different Cycloneshocks from 10 different stores 1000 times each (Impractical I know, but think of it as a thought experiment), then see if the same tendency is still present.

Sleightof hand is an answer, but will not work the same way for everyone, simply because the gun itself is different in every model. What you have done is get used to the quirks of your particular model, and reacted accordingly. I will be testing this method Today (possibly) to find out if the same flaw is present in my model. Bravo on finding a solution, but the suggestion that it will work for others is flawed.

Edited by Astech, 04 July 2015 - 02:07 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:11 AM

The Cycloneshock is simply not designed for accuracy, as you indicate above. Its power, combined with the tiny "barrel" means that inaccuracy will always be a problem. The whistle is innately inaccurate, even with the improvement of two holes. Any tendencies you have observed will be due to systematic error (That is, some flaw in the design causes darts fired from that particular model to leave the barrel in a particular way more often than usual). One of the greatest mistakes made in nerf "science" is using tiny sample sizes. Try firing 10 different Cycloneshocks from 10 different stores 1000 times each (Impractical I know, but think of it as a thought experiment), then see if the same tendency is still present.

Sleightof hand is an answer, but will not work the same way for everyone, simply because the gun itself is different in every model. What you have done is get used to the quirks of your particular model, and reacted accordingly. I will be testing this method Today (possibly) to find out is the same flaw is present in my model. Bravo on finding a solution, but the suggestion that it will work for others is flawed.



I had thought of the factor of different models, but I kind of put it to the side. But nonetheless you are right. It did work for me, but it's more accurate of me to say it "may" work for others, but is not guaranteed. Thank you for that, and thank you for offering to run tests. I had some activities to do today so I couldn't get around to it myself, but if you'd like to that's very helpful and highly welcomed.

Edited by n3rfop007, 04 July 2015 - 01:11 AM.

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 07:49 PM

...but if you'd like to that's very helpful and highly welcomed.


I've done some testing in the past few days. My darts tend to curve straight to the right. I've also found that ordinary firing and aiming techniques work best for me, but that's only from 5 meters away.
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