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[racer188]

Hey guys has anyone here tried these darts? Link They resemble my Xplorer dart from Singapore but does not require me to glue them together and cost a lot less.

I'm going to order a some and see how well they hold up. Maybe a viable option for Nerf Wars

[Griever 2112]

If you order them, definitely post up your findings. Personally I have a great love for those Koosh Darts, the description in the listing and the product picture sound a little contradictory, and that foam looks weak (in the bending picture) So I would hold off myself, and let someone else take one for the team.

[Snoop Doggy doge]

I believe on NMW and NerfSG they have reviews. People like them, just dart recovery is extra low because it's black. I heard good things, wish they had flamboyant colors though

[racer188]

'Griever 2112', on 29 Jun 2015 - 1:44 PM, said:

If you order them, definitely post up your findings. Personally I have a great love for those Koosh Darts, the description in the listing and the product picture sound a little contradictory, and that foam looks weak (in the bending picture) So I would hold off myself, and let someone else take one for the team.

I'll report back my findings when I receive them.

[racer188]

Ok, finally got the darts in. Here are the initial pics. I will do a chrono shortly. Unfortunately they arrived 2 weeks two late for me to used them at B.U.R.N

Intial thoughts, very good quality foam. Thicker than the Nerf elite foam. The dart tip is solid but not firm like the solid tip darts from China. They closely resemble the Xplorer V2 tips. I'll do more testing as time allows and report back any additional findings

From left to right: Nerf Elite, Koosh Dart, Accurate (Chunlin), Chinese Dart (Solid Tip), Xplorer V2 Dart, Chinese Elite






Comparison to Xplorer V2


Comparison to Nerf Elite





So until I get some more testing done, I'll leave it at that and let you guys chime in. I'll try to answer any questions you might have.

[MAV13]

Do they shoot straight out of higher powered blasters? i.e. air blasters, homemades, etc.

[Sk8erHeart]

They make megas too.They don't have air holes and look kind of nice.
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Edited by Sk8erHeart, 24 August 2015 - 01:29 PM.

[limegreennerf]

Racer, Any update on testing of the darts. We are getting back into things, after taking the summer off, and need to order a thousand or two darts. I am trying to figure out if they are worth our testing out before I put in a bulk order. Personally I am most interested in their performance out of un-modified blasters, spring, air and flywheel.

Thanks
LGN

[shmmee]

The only review on amazon says their stryfe flywheels can't grab the pointy tip. Racer, could you see if they work in a flywheel blaster?

[Pineapplepies]

I have tried them already, and I used them with a slightly modded Demolisher and they seem to hate flywheels and don't really feed them, but are very accurate in blasters like the Firestrike and non-flywheel clip fed blasters.
Edit:Seems like racer was right, they do work in flywheels. I tried the darts in my Stryfe and they worked, but not in the Demoliser though.

Edited by Pineapplepies, 26 October 2015 - 07:08 PM.

[racer188]

Hey Guys,

Sorry for the delayed response to this thread. Been preoccupied with airsoft lately and it has been a schedule conflict with my local Nerf games (Bay Area Nerf, shameless plug . Josh & Chris run great games!)

Anyhow I've been able to test with my modded Longshots and Rapidstike indoors.

I'd love to put a more in depth review but time does not permit today so just a quick one for you guys that were waiting on a response

1. Darts are affordable, alternative to the stock Elite.
2. Darts are the same length and had no problems on my flywheel blasters but others have reported different. I just tested with my knockoff stryfe and it works just fine.
3. FPS drops vs an elite. I've seen as much as 10fps.
4. A little more consistent than an elite but not as accurate as the explorer darts.
5. Wont sting like a FVJ when shot at point blank ranges. The tip is quite soft. Coining the phrase "nipple dart" from PYSK. (I'll leave it at that)
6. Non modded blasters (shooting from a stock hammerstrike) it seems like it loses some distance, 5-10ft but accuracy better.
7. Still has some darts that wander off but not as extreme as elites (tested at 40ft)
8. Modded spring blasters they perform well, (modded longshots varying from 5kg - 12kg springs, 8kg retaliator)
9. Have not played a game with it so the true performance is unknown
10. I'd still go with koosh, but these would be an alternate

So hope this helps and doesn't confuse everyone

[LarpBeard]

HI, I just had to add about both of these darts- black ACC and knock-off megas. I got them both off aliexpress last week.

the black ACC look neat, but my voltage modded stryfe pulled off the head of one out five darts shot. and ranges are inconsistent: sometimes crap, sometimes awesome. they don't seem to be glued well at all.

as for the knock-off megas. the foam isn't as stiff as Hasbro megas. the rubbery heads are a mediocre cast- almost too thin on some sides. I tested them with my spring enhanced cyclonshock and this is what I think: the dart don't seal the barrel as well as the brand darts. ranges are far worse than regular megas. don't waste your money on these. oh, and the don't whistle since they have no hole.

[Zorns Lemma]

LarpBeard, on 10 Nov 2015 - 4:49 PM, said:

HI, I just had to add about both of these darts- black ACC and knock-off megas. I got them both off aliexpress last week.

the black ACC look neat, but my voltage modded stryfe pulled off the head of one out five darts shot. and ranges are inconsistent: sometimes crap, sometimes awesome. they don't seem to be glued well at all.

as for the knock-off megas. the foam isn't as stiff as Hasbro megas. the rubbery heads are a mediocre cast- almost too thin on some sides. I tested them with my spring enhanced cyclonshock and this is what I think: the dart don't seal the barrel as well as the brand darts. ranges are far worse than regular megas. don't waste your money on these. oh, and the don't whistle since they have no hole.

 

Do yo u have the link for the chunlin darts? They've been taken off of amazon.

[Pineapplepies]

Zorns Lemma, on 08 Dec 2015 - 8:57 PM, said:

 

Do yo u have the link for the chunlin darts? They've been taken off of amazon.

http://www.amazon.co...rts bullet head

This should work, sorry for not shorting the link to one word but I couldn't find how to do it with the new interface. So if someone knows how to make a long url show up as a single word please tell me.

Edited by Pineapplepies, 09 December 2015 - 10:41 AM.

[limegreennerf]

LarpBeard, on 10 Nov 2015 - 4:49 PM, said:

HI, I just had to add about both of these darts- black ACC and knock-off megas. I got them both off aliexpress last week.

the black ACC look neat, but my voltage modded stryfe pulled off the head of one out five darts shot. and ranges are inconsistent: sometimes crap, sometimes awesome. they don't seem to be glued well at all.

as for the knock-off megas. the foam isn't as stiff as Hasbro megas. the rubbery heads are a mediocre cast- almost too thin on some sides. I tested them with my spring enhanced cyclonshock and this is what I think: the dart don't seal the barrel as well as the brand darts. ranges are far worse than regular megas. don't waste your money on these. oh, and the don't whistle since they have no hole.

 

 

LarpBeard - I got some knock off megas on ebay from China.  Mine have the holes and whistle and the quality seems to be good..  However I can't compare to real nerf megas as I have not had any.

 

LGN

[ElliottW]

I've been fooling around with these ACCurate (aka Chunlin) darts for a few weeks now. I don't have a chrono, but I did take a semester of aerodynamics in college, so my observations are subjective, but fairly educated. Due to the slight difference in mass, their effective range is the same as regular Nerf darts and knockoff varieties. We could quibble about +5 or -10 feet, but it's all within the statistical margin of error, especially for Nerf darts, if you know what I mean ;-)

 

They do tend to shoot straighter, with far fewer heading off into the weeds compared to standard Nerf darts.  I have found them to be very good in a modded Rampage with an OMW Final Stage, and in all single shot front loading pistol blasters, with one exception. I have a CycloneShock with reduced barrels for Elite darts. The acceleration is so fast, and the barrels so short, the darts aren't in a stable trajectory when they leave the blaster. It's anyone's guess where they'll go. I've postulated that the domed heads are much more aerodynamic than the standard Nerf design, which contributes to the improved consistency, and to some degree accuracy. Let it be said that the words "Nerf" and "accuracy" should not be used in the same sentence by reasonably educated, mentally stable, normally socialized individuals.

 

However, the dart heads on the ACCurates aren't glued in very well. When hitting a solid target (i.e. my piano) the force of the impact often rips the heads off the darts. Out of 20, I destroyed 7 in one afternoon. Four were salvageable with a little Aleene's craft glue, and three were mangled so badly that I decided to throw them out. Truth be told, I never found one of the heads, and I think my Chihuahua may have eaten it. It's two weeks, and he's still alive, so I think the crisis has passed.

 

To my great disappointment, the ACCurates don't do well in my flywheel blasters.  I have a Hail-Fire and several RapidStrikes, and these darts do not perform well in any of them. There's something about the way the flywheels grab the tips, and I've dislodged several ACCurates that got smooshed (if that's even a word) between the flywheel and the barrel. Frankly, it's kind of messy. The darts that got jammed were only 50% salvageable.

 

So, my unscientific but thorough tests have concluded the following: these ACCurate darts are great for single shot blasters like the Raider, Rampage, and Retaliator, as well as single shot pistols like the StrongArm, Triad, and Nite Finder, but horrible in flywheel blasters, probably due to the shape of the heads.  For the blasters they work in, they are very consistent, and quite reasonably priced. I've been getting a 100 for $5.85 USD.

[KaneTheMediocre]

ElliottW, on 28 Dec 2015 - 12:54 AM, said:

However, the dart heads on the ACCurates aren't glued in very well. When hitting a solid target (i.e. my piano) the force of the impact often rips the heads off the darts. Out of 20, I destroyed 7 in one afternoon. Four were salvageable with a little Aleene's craft glue, and three were mangled so badly that I decided to throw them out. Truth be told, I never found one of the heads, and I think my Chihuahua may have eaten it. It's two weeks, and he's still alive, so I think the crisis has passed.

Great news for people that don't want the black foam. Mostly me.  .05 per head isn't bad if we can get them to stick.  I've ordered some, and they arrive forever from now.