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#1 tetsuhau

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 04:52 PM

Been reading online and read about two options.

Plasti Dip: Sounds like this works for about 100 darts and wears off.

Duct tape: Sounds like an absolute mess...

Has anyone tried truck box liner? you can get it in rattle cans. The one from Dupli Color is even rubber based.

Thoughts?
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#2 rockinon96

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:14 PM

Been reading online and read about two options.

Plasti Dip: Sounds like this works for about 100 darts and wears off.

Duct tape: Sounds like an absolute mess...

Has anyone tried truck box liner? you can get it in rattle cans. The one from Dupli Color is even rubber based.

Thoughts?


Personally, I don't like electronic blaster in general.

However, I have used the dupli color truck bed (as you called the truck "box") and I can say it does wonders for gripping onto things... So I don't see why it wouldn't work for flywheels.

If you think it is worth trying out, then go for it.
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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:23 PM

Anything you put on flywheels will come off, and is a waste of material.

After a dozen or so darts going through the wheels you'll get a natural build-up of blue foam residue that will achieve optimal grip.

No need to put anything on the wheels, just run a few clips through your blaster.
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 07:31 PM

i would think texturing it would be better than coating it with anything very light roughing up with sandpaper?
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:16 PM

i would think texturing it would be better...


I would LOVE to see someone stipple flywheels. In fact, I think I'll do it once I get my new soldering iron just for the lols. Who knows, maybe it will actually work wonders...
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Gut the electronics, drill a hole in the shell, and attach a crank to the gear. Bam, crank-action stampede that doesn't require batteries, or even a trigger.

...(also judging by your past posts, I would consider you pretty dang wise elder like in the modding community :lol: )


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:25 PM

That's why I was wondering about bed armour. Thick, rough and rubber based. Seems like it couldn't hurt...
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Posted 06 February 2015 - 02:12 AM

That's why I was wondering about bed armour. Thick, rough and rubber based. Seems like it couldn't hurt...

it could there are 2 thing you don't want to do 1 knock them out of balance 2 make them heavier and thus slower to spin up.

the force of the dart leaving the barrels is derived mainly from the speed at which the fly wheels spin. Torque is if the flywheels keep spinning under load as well as the mass of load and resistance to slowing down. Grip is what allows a the dart to receive the kinetic energy if a dart was too slick and not enough grip the fly wheels will just rip it up as it leaves.

the question is with the materials used which produces more friction a glass smooth surface or a rougher surface.
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Posted 25 February 2015 - 06:20 PM

I usually just put a couple of wraps of e-tape on my flywheels. It is a bit wider so I cut off the excess with an x-acto blade. It is pretty clean and gets the job done.
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#9 tetsuhau

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 06:41 PM

Actually used truck bed liner spray and so far working quite nicely
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Posted 26 February 2015 - 01:09 PM

Actually used truck bed liner spray and so far working quite nicely


Have you noticed any dart shave-age happening? If not I may have to try this, sounds better than plasta-dip to me.
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Gut the electronics, drill a hole in the shell, and attach a crank to the gear. Bam, crank-action stampede that doesn't require batteries, or even a trigger.

...(also judging by your past posts, I would consider you pretty dang wise elder like in the modding community :lol: )


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 01:19 PM

Honestly no more than I did before I did it with the increased voltage. The darts come out marked but just the tip the foam is still intact. I used the dupli Color product it's rubber based works great on pistol grips too.
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Posted 26 February 2015 - 11:38 PM

Wrap some rubber bands around them. Then super glue them so theres no slippage.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 12:20 AM

Wrap some rubber bands around them. Then super glue them so theres no slippage.



This is a colossal mistake. Super glue doesn't hold on to either material very well. Rubber bands are too stretchy and will come loose. It has been done, and doesn't even work at stock motor speeds.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:20 AM

If you really want better grip on darts, make a 3d printing file of flywheels that are textured and/or bigger. These would last way longer than adding material to the flywheels, and would be a lot cheaper and replaceable. In addition, they can probabably get a significantly larger grip and consistancy. If you don't have access to 3d printing, it is probably possible to fabricate the flywheels from a different material.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:44 AM

I ran 1000 rounds or so through my flywheels and see no sing of wear or falling off yet. If anything the usual blue build up is adding to it.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 12:56 PM

I ran 1000 rounds or so through my flywheels and see no sing of wear or falling off yet. If anything the usual blue build up is adding to it.


That's great! Have you noticed a performance difference yet?
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Gut the electronics, drill a hole in the shell, and attach a crank to the gear. Bam, crank-action stampede that doesn't require batteries, or even a trigger.

...(also judging by your past posts, I would consider you pretty dang wise elder like in the modding community :lol: )


#17 tetsuhau

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 01:30 PM

I don't own a chrono so I can't vouch numbers. Really need to buy one of those. But for the hour it may have taken start to finish I feel it was worth it because it can't hurt right?
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 03:22 PM

Redacted.

Edited by BlasterHacker, 01 March 2015 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 05:33 PM

I'm kind of curious, but how often do you clean off the flywheels after coating them?

Whatever coating you put on them will pick up a layer of foam just like the stock wheels do. So doesn't that take you right back to square one?
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#20 tetsuhau

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 07:35 PM

https://www.duplicol...edArmorAerosol/

Not at all what I used! Here's the link. And this stuck is textured. It's rough, and rubber based. It's truck bed liner so it'll hold up.
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#21 tetsuhau

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 07:41 PM

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Hard to tell in the picture but I don't see any real build up to speak of. Like I said over a thousand rounds. This is it.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 09:13 PM

I'm kind of curious, but how often do you clean off the flywheels after coating them?

Whatever coating you put on them will pick up a layer of foam just like the stock wheels do. So doesn't that take you right back to square one?


The layer of foam actually acts as a grippy coating itself. If you keep your flywheels squeaky clean, you're going to have some dart slippage which means reduced dart velocity and range.
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Gut the electronics, drill a hole in the shell, and attach a crank to the gear. Bam, crank-action stampede that doesn't require batteries, or even a trigger.

...(also judging by your past posts, I would consider you pretty dang wise elder like in the modding community :lol: )


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 04:28 PM

That is what I am saying. If you spray a coating on the flywheels it will get covered up by the dart foam.

You would have to clean off the foam layer build up to maintain the benefit of a coating.
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Posted 28 February 2015 - 04:45 PM

That is what I am saying. If you spray a coating on the flywheels it will get covered up by the dart foam.

You would have to clean off the foam layer build up to maintain the benefit of a coating.


Totally agree. I thought you were somehow advocating cleaning stock flywheels :wacko:
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Gut the electronics, drill a hole in the shell, and attach a crank to the gear. Bam, crank-action stampede that doesn't require batteries, or even a trigger.

...(also judging by your past posts, I would consider you pretty dang wise elder like in the modding community :lol: )



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