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[MercylessMaciver]

Today I was just exploring around Ebay and I stumbled upon a caption on the side for something Nerf that target was selling. It looked a little odd so I followed it and this is the page it brought me to.

My link

Are those what I think they look like?!?!

It says its not sold online or in stores yet so I'm wondering if it is another pre-release goof-up.

[Buffdaddy]

These are in fact real. Basically, they just shrank the suction heads down so that these can work in Nstrike clips.

[Mully]

Looks neat, an article popped up on Basic Nerf a few days ago about these.

Edited by Mully, 05 December 2013 - 09:46 PM.

[xXhunter47Xx]

It's just elite darts with the suction tip added onto the tip. Instead of conventional suction darts with wrap around the dart, this one is glued by a stem inside.
Pretty neato, may pick a set up because full auto sticky dart action against the window is cool.

[Daniel Beaver]

The superior Larami Dart returns

[Azrael0987]

I'm wondering if with these you could cut off the suction tip and have a solid tip elite. Without an air hole thy might be much more accurate.

EDIT: I think if they are good quality and in fact are more accurate they will be well worth Hasbros time. I know i'll be cleaning out shelves of them.

Edited by Azrael0987, 08 December 2013 - 03:09 PM.

[Bchamp22795]

In general, I find regular suction cup darts a lot more accurate than most stock darts. I am optimistic about these being accurate in stock form (without cutting off the suction cup)

[WSU Cowboy]

I'm wondering if with these you could cut off the suction tip and have a solid tip elite. Without an air hole thy might be much more accurate.

Now THAT is an idea.... I may have to invest in this....

[Daniel Beaver]

Now THAT is an idea.... I may have to invest in this....

Suction cup darts are quite accurate, cutting off the tip might actually harm accuracy more than it helps.

[KaneTheMediocre]

These could really improve the prospects for high powered clip fed blasters. Suction cups aren't extraordinarily aerodynamic, but the shape is flexible without being hollow and vented. I think that's why the 5/8" head suction cup darts are stable at much higher speeds than streamlines or elites. If these replicate that success, then we're in for a treat.

[WSU Cowboy]

Suction cup darts are quite accurate, cutting off the tip might actually harm accuracy more than it helps.

Interesting, I haven't ever used them in a high powered blaster before so I wouldn't know! I would love to try them both ways in my stage 3 retaliator!

[Just582]

Anyone else see the possibilities of new blasters too? I mean, every type of ammo released by nerf was included in at least one blaster. If a child purchases a nerf blaster, the're likely to buy the same ammo it came with, so if no blasters included the suction elites, the darts wouldn't be worth hasbro's time and money to make. I guess we'll have to wait and see!

[azrael]

I'm wondering if with these you could cut off the suction tip and have a solid tip elite. Without an air hole thy might be much more accurate.

EDIT: I think if they are good quality and in fact are more accurate they will be well worth Hasbros time. I know i'll be cleaning out shelves of them.

a test was recently conducted which seemed to suggest that inaccuracy was not greatly influenced by the hole in the dart, and suggested that excess muzzle blast was actually the isue.

[hylin224]

a test was recently conducted which seemed to suggest that inaccuracy was not greatly influenced by the hole in the dart, and suggested that excess muzzle blast was actually the isue.

By "muzzle blast" i'm assuming you're talking about springers and air-powered blasters...

While firing overvolted Stryfes across an open basketball court I noticed that most of my (almost mint) N-Strike Elite darts would travel straight for about 30 ft. and then abruptly curve off in one direction, almost like a kicked or thrown ball that had some spin on it. Although the inside of the Stryfe barrel is rifled i'm skeptical that this leads to any spin of the dart and the initially straight trajectory tells me that whatever's going on happens to the dart in-flight.

While I have a limited number of Elites at the moment I plan on somehow sealing the holes in a few and testing them. Hell, I might even do a write-up. Unless someone has done it before and I haven't found that post.

EDIT: for completeness

Edited by hylin224, 15 January 2014 - 10:55 PM.

[azrael]

By "muzzle blast" i'm assuming you're talking about springers and air-powered blasters...

While firing overvolted Stryfes across an open basketball court I noticed that most of my (almost mint) N-Strike Elite darts would travel straight for about 30 ft. and then abruptly curve off in one direction, almost like a kicked or thrown ball that had some spin on it. Although the inside of the Stryfe barrel is rifled i'm skeptical that this leads to any spin of the dart and the initially straight trajectory tells me that whatever's going on happens to the dart in-flight.

While I have a limited number of Elites at the moment I plan on somehow sealing the holes in a few and testing them. Hell, I might even do a write-up. Unless someone has done it before and I haven't found that post.

EDIT: for completeness

You know, a lot of people complain about Stryfe accuracy, but mine works really well in an area with no wind.

The barrel should never cause spin unless the dart hits it, which, ideally, it should never do.