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#1 Blood Angel

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:34 PM

New Elite 18 round magazine and Elite darts! Original Website

http://youtu.be/nniXK8OjNV0

-Package contains one 18-round Elite Series clip system magazine and 18 Elite streamline darts

-Advertised price-point of $9.99; currently available on Amazon for $11.99, limit 5

-Magazines backwards compatible with previous Nerf clip system blasters

-Clear plastic side allows user to view magazine contents

-Right side placement of viewing window less than optimal for right-handed users

-Internal tabs limit capacity to 18 darts; prevents overloading, alleviates jams and double feeds

-Elite Streamline dart 25% lighter than original

-New dart head design redistributes weight towards front


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In this video we introduce the new Nerf Elite Series 18 round clip system magazine, and examine what it has to offer over its predecessor: the original 18 round magazine included with the Nerf Stampede.

Externally the two are nearly identical, and as you would imagine are interchangeable in their compatibility with both old and new Nerf Clip System blasters. The primary noticeable difference is that Nerf has replaced one side of the Elite Series magazine with a translucent orange plastic, as compared to the opaque plastic of previous models. The advantage is immediately apparent in that it allows a user to easily identify when they are running low on ammunition. With a glance, one can see exactly how many darts remain, even during the most heated of firefights.

While still a vast improvement, we couldn't help but notice an interesting design choice: when shouldering a vertically fed blaster on the right side of the body, the clear plastic half of the magazine is actually located on the right side of the blaster--outside the user's line of sight. As most users are right-handed, this will present a minor inconvenience. More interesting still is that side-loading blasters like the Raider or Rampage will have the clear portion of the magazine facing straight down. Both of these are less than optimal, and will require users to turn and flip their blasters at odd angles in order to view the contents. Again, this still provides a significant advantage over the small viewing slits in the previous fully opaque models, but we feel it isn't quite realizing its full potential.

Internally we were able to identify a more subtle, yet still very important difference. Inside the bottom portion of the magazine is the addition of four small plastic tabs. These tabs stop the spring-loaded dart feeding mechanism from advancing any further into the magazine. The end result is that the new Elite Series magazines have a maximum capacity of exactly 18 darts and no more.

This is actually a good thing, as it eliminates any possibility of overloading. Previous clip system magazines easily accommodate an extra one or two darts and, unless you count, it's very easy to accidentally overfeed them. This leads to excessive compression of the darts, shortening their overall life span as well as deforming them and increasing the likelihood of jams and double feeds. With the new design this is impossible, allowing players to fill their magazines quickly and with confidence. We think this is ideal, and certainly worth the tradeoff in capacity.

Lastly, we looked at the darts themselves, and found some very interesting differences. Outwardly the new Elite Series streamline darts resemble the original streamlines in every way, with no obvious differences in the quality or construction of the darts themselves. The foam body of a brand new Elite streamline feels identical to the foam of a brand new original streamline, and the only physical characteristic that differentiates them is a slight increase in resistance to compression of the dart head.

However, dissection and subsequent weighing reveals some noteworthy points of interest. First, the overall weight of the darts differs by a significant margin. The original streamline darts weigh in at 1.34g, while the Elite streamline darts are relatively lighter at 0.99g. This is a difference of 0.35g, making the Elite streamlines approximately 25% lighter overall.

Cutting the darts open and separating the head from the shaft, we found that the foam bodies of the original and Elite streamlines are nearly identical, weighing in at 0.3g and 0.25g respectively. The real difference shows in the weights of the dart heads; the tip of the original coming in at a whopping 1.04g, next to the comparatively much lighter Elite dart tip at 0.74g. This is a variance of 0.3g, which accounts for most of the overall difference in the weights of the darts themselves.

Finally, and perhaps most significant of all, is the actual distribution of all that extra weight throughout the body of the dart. As you can see in the image below, the head of the original streamline dart is about twice as long as the Elite dart head; the tail extends an extra 1.5cm into the dart. We don't know exactly how these factors will add up to affect performance, but between this shift in weight distribution and a lighter weight overall, we could expect to potentially see some differences in both range and flight dynamics, particularly with the more powerful Elite Series blasters.

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Edited by Blood Angel, 19 July 2012 - 11:34 AM.

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#2 proplus

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:05 PM

Disregaurd, you're good :)

Edited by proplus, 19 July 2012 - 09:20 PM.

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#3 cmeej

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

Despite the "noob" mistake on the post. It's actually a really great overview video. Good job!
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#4 Daniel Beaver

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:16 PM

I'm sorry but you're not supposed to post links to youtube or blogs.
unless there backed up by a solid topic.


To elaborate:

We don't want NerfHaven to just be a link farm. It is good that you are doing this sort of tear down and analysis of the new darts and magazine, but members should not be required to navigate to your site or video to get any information at all. What would make this acceptable is to post a little summary, with maybe a picture or two, and a link to the external site. That way, members posting responses here can glance at the original post for a little bit of context while they are discussing the subject.

Using the contents of your blog, here is an example of what a good post on this subject should look like:

-Package contains one 18-round Elite Series clip system magazine and 18 Elite streamline darts
-Advertised price-point of $9.99; currently available on Amazon for $11.99, limit 5
-Magazines backwards compatible with previous Nerf clip system blasters
-Clear plastic side allows user to view magazine contents
-Right side placement of viewing window less than optimal for right-handed users
-Internal tabs limit capacity to 18 darts; prevents overloading, alleviates jams and double feeds
-Elite Streamline dart 25% lighter than original
-New dart head design redistributes weight towards front

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Here is the original site post.

http://www.bayareane...ite18round.html

accompanying video:


Edited by Daniel Beaver, 18 July 2012 - 10:21 PM.

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#5 Blood Angel

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:30 AM

To elaborate:

We don't want NerfHaven to just be a link farm. It is good that you are doing this sort of tear down and analysis of the new darts and magazine, but members should not be required to navigate to your site or video to get any information at all. What would make this acceptable is to post a little summary, with maybe a picture or two, and a link to the external site. That way, members posting responses here can glance at the original post for a little bit of context while they are discussing the subject.

Using the contents of your blog, here is an example of what a good post on this subject should look like:


What I'd really like to do is figure out how to embed the video into the thread. That way you wouldn't have to go to youtube to see the video.
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#6 shmmee

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:41 AM

Imbedded video is great, but if it constitutes the only information your post contains, it excludes those behind a YouTube filtering work firewall, and smart phone surfers with limited reception/ data plans. The more comprehensive posts suggested above may take a little more work, but it can be appreciated by a wider audience.
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#7 Daniel Beaver

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 02:33 PM

Huh, I thought the youtube tag was enabled, but I guess not. Bitch at Langley if you really want it :lol:
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#8 Bay Area Josh

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:44 PM

Just to note, this is not actually Blood Angel's blog, but we do appreciate him wanting to spread the word by linking to our blog/videos. We're glad that you enjoyed it and hope the information was helpful. We look forward to further serving the Nerf community in and out of the bay area with more news and information.
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#9 ShaNayNay

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:53 AM

Its great to see Nerf finally getting some sense and selling individual clips in store. When they are officially released in store ill definitely buy two or three. Nice job on the video as well.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:36 AM

I was just wondering if the average diameters of the elite darts are the same as streamlines? Is the foam more dense/stiffer than the streamlines? Brass breech compatible? Thanks.
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#11 Jeo

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 05:58 AM

Dimensions are identical. Stiffness/denseness does seem harder than a streamline, but maybe that's just because they're brand new. New streamlines are always stiffer than I'd give them credit for. Wouldn't be surprised if they went either way basically
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