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#1 BubuKitti

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:54 AM

This is our guide on how to modify your Rampage for 90ft+ range. Hope you enjoy!



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Edited by Zorn's Lemma, 12 July 2012 - 11:37 AM.
a post with just a linke to a video is not a post

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#2 Seprest

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:06 AM

A spring stretch is never any good, you ARE deforming the spring by stretching it as you do. I suggest that NO ONE stretch their springs, especially in their new blasters! It is misleading to say that you are not deforming your spring! Also the K-11 McMaster spring has been dismissed as misinformation, you may want to reread the spring thread and annotate over what you said.

I do not mind the little compression you do as I believe the blaster already has the spring slightly compressed at rest.

Also, 90ft ranges? I am sorry these ranges cannot be accurate, you did not appear to even angle your shots, so there is no way that they are hitting near the century mark! Please get out a tape measure and learn how far 30 yards actually is, or provide proof of these ranges, I am extremely skeptical of your claim! Maybe you could use the extra writeup room available in your post to give us some avg ranges that are actually measured? That would be extremely useful!

You say that the AR helps channel air, this is true, but it also reduces the velocity and volume of the air able to move in a closed environment in a given amount of time.  It should be assumed that any blockage in the barrel that is irregular will be detrimental to performance.  In order to remove the part of the AR with the hole in the middle it is necessary to have 2 medium length flathead screwdrivers that can both lodge their tips under the side of this AR piece.  You then insert one from the back of the plunger, and one from the front.  Lodge one between the plunger tube and the AR at the top, and the other at the bottom.  Putting pressure on both should deform the disc with minimum force, allowing you to easily punch it out now that it is not longer a circular shape being caught by those 2 rims you talked about.  Given that the part of the AR that people seem to be leaving in is made to move, unless it is deformed a little it will rattle when you tilt the blaster and when you fire, definitely not a preferable state to have modded your blaster to!   

Edited by Seprest, 12 July 2012 - 07:09 AM.

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#3 Briguy52

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

If you're going to want to stretch the spring (ie if you have no other springs on hand) you should definitely "heat treat it" using a propane torch or some other tool. This keeps the spring at the stretched length and keeps it from deforming. True, if you stretch the spring (without treating it), performance will increase by a good amount, but as you use the blaster, its performance will decrease quite a bit as the spring deforms.

Also, since both the Retaliator and Rampage are both direct plunger blasters, you really don't need to worry about finding exact length spring additions/replacements (the problem the reverse plunger CS blasters had because the spring had to fit over the reverse plunger section). You could honestly just pop in a NF spring or any decent spring you have lying around, like a Home Depot Handyman spring or an Ace #49 as the plunger tube is relatively similar dimension-wise to a Nite Finder.

Anyways, pretty clean video layout.

Oh, and can you dry fire it (safely) by holding onto the plunger rod as it comes out the back now that you removed the stock adapter piece? (like you would a Nite Finder, + Bow, etc.)
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:28 AM

You shouldn't really say ranges that you just eyeball; a few dollars is a fine investment to test your blasters accurately. Other than that, nice mod guide, and I agree with Seprest that you shouldn't stretch the spring.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:30 AM

I wouldn't doubt ranges of 90 feet if fired with a slight angle. I was hitting 50 (or more with a perfect shot) PTG when stock.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:43 AM

Without a physical writeup, or well measured ranges, I don't find this guide to be very reliable.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:14 PM

Didn't want to leave anyone hanging so a couple of things in response. First, thanks for the feedback. Also, Scraps mentions in the commentary that the spring being stretched is a temporary fix until we get the appropriate aftermarket spring and install it. Lastly, I definitely should have linked the range tests to the original video and I wanted to add that link so you guys can check it out.
Thanks again for helping us continue to improve our products and videos



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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:26 PM

If you're going to want to stretch the spring (ie if you have no other springs on hand) you should definitely "heat treat it" using a propane torch or some other tool. This keeps the spring at the stretched length and keeps it from deforming. True, if you stretch the spring (without treating it), performance will increase by a good amount, but as you use the blaster, its performance will decrease quite a bit as the spring deforms.



I wouldn't recommend trying to heat treat a spring on your own unless you've had training in the process and a whole lot of practice. Heat treating and tempering is a pretty complex process that even professional blacksmiths screw up from time to time, and without computer aided forges/kilns and quench tanks it all comes down to rules of thumb. Do yourself a favor and just buy a new spring.
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#9 Daniel Beaver

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

Every time I hear someone recommend "heat treating" a spring, I burn kitten's eyeballs with cigarettes.
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#10 Zorns Lemma

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:56 PM

It would help if you updated your post with the actual ranges and how you measured them. It would also help if the original post told us any information about what modifications were done and how to do them.

A post who's entire content needs to be derived from an external source is pretty meaningless here.
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