#1
Posted 16 May 2004 - 06:02 PM
Basically, for anyone who uses the sm1500, you know what the feeling is like when you need to shoot at something with some amount of accuracy.
Click here to see what I've done.
-AirApache
#2
Posted 16 May 2004 - 06:15 PM
I once added a scope to my ball valve homemade. I made a crosshair over the end of a section of 1" pvc.
I found it worked better to just aim along the barrel with that gun. I have never shot an sm 1500, so maybe a scope is the way to go.
~Vintage
~Al Capone
#3
Posted 16 May 2004 - 06:24 PM
EDIT: Used Vintage's links. Thanks Vintage!
-AirApache
Edited by AirApache, 16 May 2004 - 06:45 PM.
#4
Posted 16 May 2004 - 06:39 PM
Pic 1: "http://img11.imagesh.../sm1500ALL.jpg"
Pic 2: "http://img11.imagesh...m1500blur2.jpg"
Pic 3: "http://img11.imagesh...1500scope1.jpg"
Pic 4: "http://img11.imagesh...pe2_target.jpg"
Pic 5: "http://img11.imagesh...scopeblur1.jpg"
Thanks,
~Vintage
Edited by Vintage, 16 May 2004 - 06:42 PM.
~Al Capone
#5
Posted 16 May 2004 - 07:01 PM
Edited by Warlock, 16 May 2004 - 07:01 PM.
"It's so hard to be a fighter when your hands are always tied"
~"Señor Limpio" by Corrosion Of Conformity
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#6
Posted 16 May 2004 - 07:11 PM
1)It block's the view of what you want to aim at.
2)It's hard to tell how high or low your aiming.
3)It annoys me.
Edited by AirApache, 16 May 2004 - 07:11 PM.
#7
Posted 16 May 2004 - 07:14 PM
also can i ask what that crayola marker is for taped onto the side??
#8
Posted 16 May 2004 - 08:42 PM
#9
Posted 16 May 2004 - 08:57 PM
A long scope is not necessary for target aquisition.
A short scope gives your eyes a good view of things that are not in the scope, allowing you to see alot more than when your vision is narrowed by a long scope.
Two good reasons for using the long scope are that it seems easier to mount it straight on your gun and it gives it a more "loser" look. So it's really up to you what's best for the gun.
Edit:
It's a ramrod.Im guessing thats some sort of ammo holder.
~Vintage
Edited by Vintage, 16 May 2004 - 10:42 PM.
~Al Capone
#10
Posted 16 May 2004 - 11:23 PM
#11
Posted 17 May 2004 - 10:20 AM
#12
Posted 17 May 2004 - 10:50 AM
You were referring to the pvc on top I think. Yes it would be classified as a sight.It's a sight.
You confused me when you posted this right after we were talking about the marker taped onto the side of the gun. That marker is a ramrod as AirApache stated in the link in his first post.
~Vintage
~Al Capone
#13
Posted 17 May 2004 - 11:27 AM
A tube with crosshairs is not a scope, it's a sight. In response to the first post, nobody has ever said that sights aren't useful in nerf. What people don't think is useful is the magnification that scopes provide. I don't completely agree with that assessment, but that's another story entirely.
#14
Posted 17 May 2004 - 01:11 PM
#15
Posted 17 May 2004 - 08:47 PM
Alright! I took it off, and now I need some strong, reasonable input. I'm using some of the stuff that you guys posted for the advantages. Some of my options currently are:
1)Put it back on the way it was.
-"accuracy"(not that it really matters..it's the stefan that does)
-cosmetic looks(looks pretty cool )
2)Make it close to me, and make it shorter.
-has more use, as it's a general sight
-wider area of vision
3)Remove it completely.
-just make a good estimate of where to shoot
-no need to hold it in an awkward position
Let me know your input. If you have a better idea, let me know. I won't do a poll simply because people express their views better when writing someting, instead of choosing a preset option. Thanks.
-AirApache
#16
Posted 17 May 2004 - 09:11 PM
The problem with crosshairs, is that nerf guns don't shoot in a perfect straight path. They arc. So, the horizontal line in the sight only helps at one range. All you really need is a vertical line to align your shot with.
Make it as tall as is comfortable to aim across the top at a target at around 40-50 ft.
~Vintage
~Al Capone
#17
Posted 17 May 2004 - 09:13 PM
My LnL on the other hand... /sigh/
#18
Posted 17 May 2004 - 09:25 PM
-AirApache
#19
Posted 17 May 2004 - 11:24 PM
Cosmetics is a really bad reason to have something glued on your gun. Best case scenario, it doesn't get in the way and only makes your gun slightly heavier.I still don’t know if I should keep a sight on it though, if only for cosmetics.
But then I tend to be a relative Nerf purist. I remove things from guns but tend to add very little other than replacement barrels and other functional items. The ammo holder on my EaB was an abberation - which I have since removed anyhow.
Regarding instinctive aiming, I don't think it matters what gun you're using as long as you practice with it enough. You should eventually get a feel for it. That said, some people seem better suited to particular guns so it's possible that you end up with something that you just feel a whole lot more comfortable with.
My multi-barrel at3k 'only' gets 76' flat, but is accurate as hell and has an extremely high ROF. Not a bad tradeoff considering you're not all that likely to actually be shooting at people more than 50' away. At those ranges, dart variance, wind, and dodging become big factors.
#20
Posted 18 May 2004 - 12:07 AM
Aye sir!My personal opinion is that the more you use a particular gun, the more you instinctively know where it's going to shoot. I can fire my at3ks from the hip just as accurately as if I had sighted down the barrels. Likewise, my EaBs are quite deadly even on the run - mainly just because I've used them so damn much that I fire based on muscle memory more than anything.
My LnL on the other hand... /sigh/
That's what I tried to say. Thanks for being more eloquent.
I've learned to shoot my 1500 pretty darn accurately. But like CX said, I can't shoot an AT2k to save my life. Well, I've practiced with it a little more, but I'm still not very good with it.
#21
Posted 18 May 2004 - 01:35 AM
That's the idea. And practice not only prone, bench resting, trying to smack a soda can from 100 feet away. Practice on the run, practice while backing away, from behind cover and around corners. And at close ranges, too.
If you need a sight, a peep ring works okay for me. Simply a 3/8" slice of tubing hot glued to the end of my PVC barreled 5000 and it's good to go. Even then it's pretty much 50-50 at distances over 50' because of the factors cx just mentioned. Not only that, but it does get knocked off every now and then, too.
As long as you have some kind of reference point on your blaster, and you practice enough with it where you're comfortable with hitting things at realistic ranges, you'll be a happy puppy.
In the past, the aiming systems on Nerf blasters have been disappointing, at best (especially with the SuperMaxx and Air Tech series), I think Hasbro has heard our longings for a reasonable Nerf blaster sight; the Tech Target has a small but usable one, and the Nite Finder has a much more pronounced one in addition to the cool red light (which is a plus or minus depending on what you use it for). Perhaps the new Fall offerings will reflect this trend, and have still more "user-friendly" sighting.
-Piney-
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#22
Posted 18 May 2004 - 02:39 AM
edit: I agree with the above statemeants as well, just practice alot, me and my friend like to shoot homemade targets in the backyard. ive gotten so good at aiming my x-bow, anything within 100' of me is toast, though my x-bow is about 95% accurate, so that helps alot.
Edited by NinjZ, 18 May 2004 - 02:46 AM.
#23
Posted 18 May 2004 - 12:16 PM
I'll stick with just removing the green top thing then. You all have a lot more experience than I, so I'll take your word on it. Thanks.Practice, practice, practice.
That's the idea. And practice not only prone, bench resting, trying to smack a soda can from 100 feet away. Practice on the run, practice while backing away, from behind cover and around corners. And at close ranges, too.
-AirApache
#24
Posted 18 May 2004 - 12:19 PM
Camper.practice ... from behind cover and around corners.
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#25
Posted 18 May 2004 - 12:25 PM
Don't mean to post uselessly, but you made me fall off my chair laughing.Camper.practice ... from behind cover and around corners.
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Thanks,
-Piney-
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