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#1 NITROMAINIAC

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:23 AM

Hey guys my name's NITROMAINIAC, I'm new to the forums and I am planning on making an air powered PVC rifle that shoots nerf darts for skirmish games at my "Foundry".

Now I have my plans all sorted to make an efficiant rifle, the length, sights, egros, and pumping capability, I might post some pictures and or videos of it in action once it's finished.

Anyway it's going to be one of the old tyre valve, PVC pipe and ball valve type weapons, and as I said everything's sorted it's just the air chamber is about 4 inches in length of the standard ball valve size pvc fitting, Will this size air chamber be enough to shoot the dart 30 metres or more?

Ive noticed people using thier stock as the air chamber with a minipump attached, but I have used a 4 inch air chamber with a traditional large handheld pump so with a small chamber and large pump, thier is less pumping time which is perfect for the fast paced scenario's I'm planning on doing.

So yes will it be enough and how long should it take to pump? is it hard to pump? do they hurt? Ive never made one before and I'm wanting to know.

I also know this post isn't really neccesary but what are these forum's for?

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#2 HasreadCoC

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 12:02 PM

I also know this post isn't really neccesary but what are these forum's for?

In my personal experience, no, questions are not what this forum is for. Also, this almost certainly belongs in the homemades section of this forum. You might have better luck on this facebook page for asking questions, assuming you have a facebook account, as this site isn't exactly the most friendly when it comes to questions. Also, when discussing theoretical stuff like this, a simple diagram with measurements is quite helpful visually. Also, there are many examples of homemade air tanks in the "homemades" section, you can check the directory. There are usually: back pressure tanks, pull-pin tanks, and simple ball-valve tanks which is what you seem to be talking about. I suggest familiarizing yourself with all such types as well as reviewing the safety warnings about PVC under air pressure so you don't blow up PVC in your, or someone else's, hands.

Congrats on at least using fairly good grammar/punctuation in your first post, although there were mistakes, at least it looks like you tried which is why I'm replying at all.

Admins, please note that none of the previous post was meant to be back-seat-moderating, but rather just a helpful and constructive reply.
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#3 NITROMAINIAC

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 09:02 PM

In my personal experience, no, questions are not what this forum is for. Also, this almost certainly belongs in the homemades section of this forum. You might have better luck on this facebook page for asking questions, assuming you have a facebook account, as this site isn't exactly the most friendly when it comes to questions. Also, when discussing theoretical stuff like this, a simple diagram with measurements is quite helpful visually. Also, there are many examples of homemade air tanks in the "homemades" section, you can check the directory. There are usually: back pressure tanks, pull-pin tanks, and simple ball-valve tanks which is what you seem to be talking about. I suggest familiarizing yourself with all such types as well as reviewing the safety warnings about PVC under air pressure so you don't blow up PVC in your, or someone else's, hands.

Congrats on at least using fairly good grammar/punctuation in your first post, although there were mistakes, at least it looks like you tried which is why I'm replying at all.

Admins, please note that none of the previous post was meant to be back-seat-moderating, but rather just a helpful and constructive reply.



Yes that's fucking wonderfull that most people on here have control issues like on all internet forums, now if someone normal could actually give me a hand.....?
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#4 Curly

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 09:37 PM

Yes that's fucking wonderful that most people on here have control issues like on all internet forums, now if someone normal could actually give me a hand.....?

HasreadCOC covered a fair bit on both blasters and what you should/shouldn't be posting. Question threads themselves aren't all extremely erotic, but you need to have actually done some work yourself first(pics too). It sounds like you've done a couple searches, but more never hurt. Now onto your questions:

No matter what air release system and pump you use, the range can exceed 30m easily if made correctly. When using entirely homemade parts you lose any way to regulate the pressure limit in the tank. This will cause a safety hazard to those on the receiving end.

I don't know anything about your "Foundry" but PVC airguns are not safe to use on living things when you don't know what you're doing(you don't). You can always make a PVC airgun for the sole purpose of shooting targets, but that doesn't seem to be what you want. Nobody can tell you how hard it will be to use or how far it will shoot, since it doesn't exist yet. Even stock darts flying 30m will leave marks and hurt a fair amount. Shooting out eyes is very easy, so this won't end well.

I think your thought train here was to have a powerful blaster that would outgun what I would assume to be AR-removed blasters without any drawbacks. You will hurt your friends with one of these. If you want a little more power over AR removal rebarrel and add a spring. You should still wear safety gear, but modified stock guns won't disembowel anybody.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 12:00 AM

As another Aussie, also note that what you're making is technically illegal and can/will be classed as a Category A firearm.
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#6 Exo

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 10:58 AM

As another Aussie, also note that what you're making is technically illegal and can/will be classed as a Category A firearm.

Slapped down.

Not only that, but it'd be heavy as all hell, and pumping and running around with a heavy gun isn't fun. You might as well just buy a titan and single it, and we all know how that goes.
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#7 arfink

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 12:00 PM

Do a quick search for JSPB or Taiwan style blasters, they are the only homemade airguns I can honestly suggest for a beginner. Also, don't bring a homemade to a war unless you're willing to shoot yourself with it from point blank range. Also don't bring a homemade airgun to a war if you don't have an OPRV of some kind on it. You can buy those from McMaster or take one off of another airgun.

Better yet, before you build a potentially dangerous homemade airgun, experiment with existing models or with squirt guns to get a better feel for things.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:07 PM

If you are makeing a home made airgun you should definitely have an over pressure valve to keep it safe. You can buy them from McMaster Carr or you can make a simple home made one found here.
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#9 NITROMAINIAC

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:21 AM

Ok thanks guys your all a great help, (even the one with control issues, sorry that was a bit nasty it wasn't my day) anyway
I tried to build it and it just ended up a big failure Lmao. I had EVERYTHING planned then I get to the hardware store and they have no parts I need so I had to get adapters and all this crap which completley STUFFED the egronomics, aside from that in the end it's only a single shot pump action that yes can shoot further if made corrently but still when I just wasted $60 and you can buy a magstrike for like $25 from kmart whats the point. I have learnt my lesson and have been a very naughty boy *Quietly returns to corner*

Oh and btw thanks for the links to the let off valves that may come in handy some day.

You are all awesome, but unfortunatley this gun isn't.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 08:09 AM

Well, since you have a Magstrike go do this:

http://nerfhaven.com...showtopic=21373

Those of us in Sydney have found that BBUMB tanks work fairly well as a substitute for the Quickblast's tank. I think we now have 3 of these around our wars.

Edited by 238232, 28 October 2011 - 08:11 AM.

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