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[automilkshake]

Amazon has a pre order for a nerf gun called the "Stampede ECS 50". it requires 6 D batteries, so i beleive this to be the so called "Nerf Big Blast" (Not Buzz Bee Big Blast), another thing that reinforces the idea is that it comes out on 9/9/10. if i am doing something wrong, or violating the CoC, please tell me so i can edit this. LINK: Nerf Stampede ECS 50 at amazon

[nostyleguy]

I think this is pretty good info. Maybe it should have gone in the Product Awareness thread, but a lot of news for the Longstrike and Deploy got their own threads, so I think you're safe.

From the bits and pieces coming in, this sounds like a new automatic system from Nerf. If its got '50' in the name, that probably means its belt fed, but the fact that 18 round clips have been seen is interesting. Maybe it will be able to support both belts and clips?

Either way, I hope its not just a re-shelled vulcan.

Edited by nostyleguy, 22 April 2010 - 08:19 PM.

[automilkshake]

yeah, i hope that it really is something totally new. unrealistic hope: automatic re-make of the crossbow? (not going to happen)

[guardian21]

Nice to know.

I did some research. its definately not the same stampede that showed up in the Nerf video game (much the same as the Raider is not the same)
http://images3.wikia...pede_REV-12.jpg

HERES THE FUN PART:
We can usually tell a lot about a gun from its code title.

Most clip guns have the abbreviation CS standing for clip system followed by a number that designates how many darts the clip holds.

The vulcan was the first electronic belt fed system and its abbreviation is apropreately EBF

Note that on the stampede the abreviation is ECS and we already know/are fairly certain that it will be coming with an 18 dart clip.

This tells me that it is an electronic clip system.
The baffling part is the clip size designation of 50 when we know it to be 18.

[automilkshake]

maybe nerf will release super-super-super-super clips for the ECS 50? I really, REALLY hope it is not a flywheel gun.

[sharvil06]

I have seen a photo of a Stampede before on some nerf website and it is sort of like a shotgun type gun that shoots about 6 darts.




(sorry for the bad quality post because I am posting from my iPod)

[guardian21]

maybe nerf will release super-super-super-super clips for the ECS 50? I really, REALLY hope it is not a flywheel gun.

i had concidered this but it conflicts with the 18 dart clip.
i know we're not supposed to speculate but:
Perhaps there will be two guns.
Nerf Big Blast
and Nerf Stampede
one with the 18 dart clip and one with the 50
this is where my speculation ends.

[Lt Stefan]

There is no way in hell there will be a 50 round box/banana/whateveryouwannacallit style clip. Try lining up eight LS clips and see how far that gets you.

The possibility is however it could have two (or more) barrels/firing systems, each using a smaller "big" clip, thus shooting twice (or more) darts without reloading.

[Colbs]

Oh jeez, from what it sounds to me, it's going to be an electronically fed clip system blaster and is going to totally suck ass. All speculation aside, thanks for the info

[guardian21]

There is no way in hell there will be a 50 round box/banana/whateveryouwannacallit style clip. Try lining up eight LS clips and see how far that gets you.

The possibility is however it could have two (or more) barrels/firing systems, each using a smaller "big" clip, thus shooting twice (or more) darts without reloading.

Raider CS-35

You could have said the same exact thing about the raiders 35 dart clip before the drum mag was released.
No one said it had to be a straight clip. For all we know it could be a bigger drum mag or some other new unique style of mag.

On the other hand i do like the idea that there may be more than one clip slot.

[automilkshake]

Whatever it is, i hope it is more useful than my vulcan sentry-gun. My vulcan may be hard to beat once i make it look like a tf2 sentry.

[durka durka]

It could possibly be some sort of double drum mag. I don't want to speculate much though.

Did anyone else gawk at that price? 55 bucks? Who's really going to plunk $50 for a battery powered nerf gun? We know that battery power usually makes it difficult to get any decent ranges. I would be very cautious about this when it comes out.

[nerfman000]

this is really interesting
http://forums.humans...pic,1393.0.html
includes a pic of the 18 round clip

[John]

Bring on the speculation. I do agree with the idea that the Big Blast and Stampede will be 2 different guns, although 9/9/10 release date on Amazon completely destroys all those ideas. 18 dart clips, or 50 dart double mags? It'll probably have a slight resemblance to the gun from the game, but not much. I guess we'll just have to wait another 4 or 5 months and see what NERF pulls next. But if this thing is ANOTHER godawful reverse plunger system, and I hope it's not, I am gonna be megapissed.
Also, the HvZ thred is very interesting, though it's possibly shopped/a modded clip.

Edited by -John-, 22 April 2010 - 10:48 PM.

[Lion]

As far as the 18 round mag. goes, does no one remember reading that was from an add on pack?

http://nerfhaven.com...51&hl=big blast


Also, that seems to show that the nerf big blast and Stampede are in fact the same thing.

Edited by Lion, 22 April 2010 - 11:29 PM.

[VelveetaAvenger]

It would be really nice if the new 50 clip was something that you can just drop a bunch of darts in at a time. Something more like a straw dispenser then the hopper clips we make, if that makes any sense to anybody. I found filling up the raider drum to be a pain, a 50 dart clip would take forever.

Wasn't the Vulcan about $50 when it came out? I don't think potential buyers will be a problem if it looks cool enough.

[SgNerf]

Yup, it looks like the Stampede ECS-50 is the official name for the 9.9.10 blaster.

The "Big Blast" name was likely a code name of sorts. I guess its was always abit of a puzzle why Nerf would even use Big Blast as a name for one of their new blasters, when Buzz Bee already uses that exact same name for their existing blaster.

Anyways, more Amazon links for you guys...


Nerf N-Strike Stampede ECS-50 National Value Pack
http://www.amazon.co...2001550&sr=1-94


Nerf N-Strike Stampede ECS-50
http://www.amazon.co...001577&sr=1-108


Nerf N-Strike Stampede Mission Kit
http://www.amazon.co...2001550&sr=1-91


Now its just a matter of waiting a while more for the official photos to be released so we can finally figure out what it looks like and how it actually works!

Edited by SgNerf, 23 April 2010 - 01:47 AM.

[Vinnie D]

Probably the easiest way to accomplish the 50 round clip would be some kind of gravity fed hopper. This would keep all the darts in the tightest space possible without the need of any additional mechanisms. The last dart just naturally rolls down into a standard clip sized opening and into a slide breech. Might be prone to jams though.

Failing that I think a larger drum would be in order. Or it could be something crazy that takes multiple clips at the same time. I'm betting on a drum or a hopper myself.

A reverse plunger might not be so bad for something like this. It's a simpler mechanism and that means that there's less to risk breaking, and easier modding. As we've seen that modding the vulcan is pretty much pointless due to its complexity, a simpler reverse plunger that could at least take some standard reverse plunger mods would have at least a little potential.

I highly doubt it will be a flywheel simply because the tommy 20 already proved that you just don't need that many batteries to power it. You likely need so many to provide enough torque to pull back a spring.

[CaptainSlug]

Speculation, conjecture, blah blah blah