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#1 Mehku

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 05:13 PM

First, I want to start off by saying that I love my longshot. But, it's incredibly fucking annoying when I have to unload 10+ darts on a single person because I can't fucking hit them from 30 feet away. So, I developed this modification. This barrel set-up is meant for non-angel breached longshots that have already been modified.

Materials:

-About 6'' of 9/16'' brass, give or take
-About 5.5'' of 1/2'' copper (yes, copper)
-e-tape
-Hot glue
-A small section of 3/4'' CPVC to stabilize & sheath the copper

Tools:

-Hacksaw
-Dremel (for cutting brass)
-A set of files
-1/2'' CPVC or some other thing to use as a ramrod


Step 1: Cut a 6'' length of 9/16'' brass. If you need a picture, you're fucking stupid.

Step 2: Wrap e-tape around the brass until it fits very tight into the longshot's faux barrel. Make sure you don't cover the ends of the brass tube.

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Step 3: Ramrod the brass into the faux barrel. Make sure you have your breech open so that the brass stops when you hit the dart tooth.

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Step 4: Cut a 5.5'' length of 1/2'' copper pipe.

Step 5: Push the copper pipe down into the faux barrel, and make sure that it goes slightly over the brass by about half a centimeter. Your brass tube should be inserted into the 1/2'' copper pipe at this point.

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Step 6: Wrap the protruding copper pipe in a thin layer of e-tape, and cut a small section of 3/4" CPVC. Fit the CPVC over the copper, and hot glue it in place. Decorate it as you wish.

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You're done!

OH, NO! NOOOOO!
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Effective ranges for my particular longshot are 50-60ft, and about 80ft angled with weighted streamlines. It was about 20 degrees Fahrenheit outside when I tested it, so ranges are likely to be better in the summer.

Edited by Mehku, 13 February 2010 - 01:27 AM.

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#2 nerfman000

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 05:56 PM

One question, do you use stefans or streamlines for your longshot?
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#3 Whisper101

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:00 PM

Following up on what I think Nerfman was alluding to; if you use streamlines then that's your accuracy problem. Nothing you do to the gun isreally gonna help witht eh streamlines's extreme shittiness. If you use stefans on the other hand...
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#4 Mehku

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:24 PM

Following up on what I think Nerfman was alluding to; if you use streamlines then that's your accuracy problem. Nothing you do to the gun isreally gonna help witht eh streamlines's extreme shittiness. If you use stefans on the other hand...


I'm using weighted streamlines. The barrel does help significantly, but every now and then one veers off to the right of left. With out the barrel when I shot, this thing just sprayed foam. Now, the streamlines actually have a general direction.

You can fire stefans, but they don't seem to go as far as weighted streamlines for some odd reason. I tried different weights too, but that's probably because they were too short..

Edited by Mehku, 10 February 2010 - 06:25 PM.

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:40 PM

Streamlines are a very loose fit in 9/16th. Especially once they have worn down after a few shoots. You're going to need to put tightening rings on the barrel, or even a small (around 2") segment of 17/32" in the back. You should get much better ranges.

oh, and on that last pic- it would help if you had a clip in.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:44 PM

Stock darts are so loose in copper, you're wasting your time here. The copper is likely decreasing range. So much air can escape around the dart, it'd be better to be in open air than inside a barrel because there would be less friction. I tried working with copper when I was new to modding. It is 100% useless as a barrel material.

Why didn't you just spend an extra 10$ and do a regular nested barrel? 9/16 brass is a loose, but airtight fit on stock darts, I am sure your ranges would improve significantly. Just put 17/32 in the stock bolt, and 9/16 in the fake barrel. They will fit together, forming an airtight seal.

I can understand your wanting to design a unique mod, but sometimes it's better to stick with tried and true methods instead.

Edited by bourbon, 10 February 2010 - 06:48 PM.

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#7 Mehku

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:45 PM

Streamlines are a very loose fit in 9/16th. Especially once they have worn down after a few shoots. You're going to need to put tightening rings on the barrel, or even a small (around 2") segment of 17/32" in the back. You should get much better ranges.

oh, and on that last pic- it would help if you had a clip in.


It was supposed to be loose because I still have the dart tooth in. I still might try the 17/32 though just for shits and giggles.

...Yeah, I know I forgot the clip. It was intended to be a joke...You do know who Mr. Bill is, right?

Stock darts are so loose in copper, you're wasting your time here. The copper is likely decreasing range. So much air can escape around the dart, it'd be better to be in open air than inside a barrel because there would be less friction. I tried working with copper when I was new to modding. It is 100% useless as a barrel material. Why didn't you just spend an extra 10$ and do a regular nested barrel? 9/16 brass is a loose, but airtight fit on stock darts, I am sure your ranges would improve significantly. Just put 17/32 in the stock bolt, and 9/16 in the fake barrel. They will fit together, forming an airtight seal.



Again, your missing the point here. It was supposed to be loose. I had the exact same ranges even without the telescoping barrel. I might try putting a small section of 17/32 in the 9/16, but that's about it.

Edited by Mehku, 10 February 2010 - 06:50 PM.

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:57 PM

Streamlines are a very loose fit in 9/16th. Especially once they have worn down after a few shoots. You're going to need to put tightening rings on the barrel, or even a small (around 2") segment of 17/32" in the back. You should get much better ranges.

oh, and on that last pic- it would help if you had a clip in.


It was supposed to be loose because I still have the dart tooth in. I still might try the 17/32 though just for shits and giggles.

...Yeah, I know I forgot the clip. It was intended to be a joke...You do know who Mr. Bill is, right?


oh... Seriously, just Angel breech it, or do this. The dart tooth serves no help with a segment of 9/16th. I'm surprised your even getting 50's with your current setup. And forget what I previously said, I didn't realize you still had the dart tooth in.

Go here for more help with your LS.

And yes, I know who Mr. Bill is.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 07:38 PM

Streamlines are a very loose fit in 9/16th. Especially once they have worn down after a few shoots. You're going to need to put tightening rings on the barrel, or even a small (around 2") segment of 17/32" in the back. You should get much better ranges.

oh, and on that last pic- it would help if you had a clip in.


It was supposed to be loose because I still have the dart tooth in. I still might try the 17/32 though just for shits and giggles.

...Yeah, I know I forgot the clip. It was intended to be a joke...You do know who Mr. Bill is, right?


oh... Seriously, just Angel breech it, or do this. The dart tooth serves no help with a segment of 9/16th. I'm surprised your even getting 50's with your current setup. And forget what I previously said, I didn't realize you still had the dart tooth in.

Go here for more help with your LS.

And yes, I know who Mr. Bill is.


-12" (ish) section of 1/2" thinwall PETG from visipak. I used the thinwall, which is very loose on streamlines. This is a plus since the seal between the breech and the barrel isn't perfect, but it still adds exponential range over the stock ls barrel.



The mod you recommended is nearly the exact same thing that I did, except it doesn't telescope. I'm sorry if I come off as rude here, but do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? The PETG in his mod is very loose on streamlines, just like my 9/16''. I don't want an angel breech for this ls because I can't make stefans for shit, it's less durable than the stock breech, and it's almost 30 dollars in brass. Not to mention the $75 dollars or sheer time to have/make a modded drum mag.

My longshot shot the same if not less distance even without my barrel, so don't go assuming that my barrel setup is retarding the dart. The only thing that I wanted from my barrel was to make my darts more accurate, because really, just when in the hell are you going to shoot someone over 75+ feet away with a longshot?

Sorry if that seemed offensive, I didn't intend it to be.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 08:23 PM

Streamlines are a very loose fit in 9/16th. Especially once they have worn down after a few shoots. You're going to need to put tightening rings on the barrel, or even a small (around 2") segment of 17/32" in the back. You should get much better ranges.

oh, and on that last pic- it would help if you had a clip in.


It was supposed to be loose because I still have the dart tooth in. I still might try the 17/32 though just for shits and giggles.

...Yeah, I know I forgot the clip. It was intended to be a joke...You do know who Mr. Bill is, right?


oh... Seriously, just Angel breech it, or do this. The dart tooth serves no help with a segment of 9/16th. I'm surprised your even getting 50's with your current setup. And forget what I previously said, I didn't realize you still had the dart tooth in.

Go here for more help with your LS.

And yes, I know who Mr. Bill is.


-12" (ish) section of 1/2" thinwall PETG from visipak. I used the thinwall, which is very loose on streamlines. This is a plus since the seal between the breech and the barrel isn't perfect, but it still adds exponential range over the stock ls barrel.



The mod you recommended is nearly the exact same thing that I did, except it doesn't telescope. I'm sorry if I come off as rude here, but do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? The PETG in his mod is very loose on streamlines, just like my 9/16''. I don't want an angel breech for this ls because I can't make stefans for shit, it's less durable than the stock breech, and it's almost 30 dollars in brass. Not to mention the $75 dollars or sheer time to have/make a modded drum mag.

My longshot shot the same if not less distance even without my barrel, so don't go assuming that my barrel setup is retarding the dart. The only thing that I wanted from my barrel was to make my darts more accurate, because really, just when in the hell are you going to shoot someone over 75+ feet away with a longshot?

Sorry if that seemed offensive, I didn't intend it to be.


Telescoping does nothing, you do know that right? Only the 9/16th is improving the accuracy.

Angel Breeches aren't just for stefans, they can work with cut down streamlines also. And, modded raider drums arn't that hard to make, you just need the necesary materials and time. Nor are superclips, which hold ~12-13 darts. I can make a angel breech in under a few hours, and it would cost me ~$10 for all the brass. And it is durable. I've had one for close to a year with only a few minor wears n' tears. And I treat my guns like shit during wars.

Who said you had to use Petg? whats wrong with brass?

Btw, the stock barrel overlaped the Petg to create a nice seal. Not perfect, but still much better than yours.

I ment to post this writeup instead btw. Though theres nothing wrong with bpso's mod. just use brass instead of aluminum.

Edit: I'm sorry if I've come across.. cross. I didn't mean to "get on his back". I simply was annoyed and let the worst of me, get to me. I've just had a long day today, and I'm just in a bad mood. Sorry.

If I'm wrong correct me. Don't bitch to me. And theres no need to repeat one's point nerfman.

Edited by jubjub517, 10 February 2010 - 10:15 PM.

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 08:42 PM

Jubjub... my god, shut up. The point is that this mod made mekhu's longshot much better than it was before. And telescoping does nothing for accuracy? Really?
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 09:50 PM

Jubjub... my god, shut up. The point is that this mod made mekhu's longshot much better than it was before. And telescoping does nothing for accuracy? Really?


I agree dude, get off of him, well back to the barrel idea, very simple and it helps it the accuracy of the gun, this is something easy to share wit noobs o nerf out there, who can't do angel breeches like some or just don't have the tools. I like it overall and will try it because, IT DOESN'T DAMAGE ANYTHING, if i like it i will keep it and even recommend it, thanks Mehku :D
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 10:03 PM

Here's my question, How did you get the "bolt tooth" ( the thing aligns the dart with the barrel) to slide over the 9/16th brass? I've tried this before in the past and have run into this problem repeatedly.
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Don't worry so much about what other people will allow. Throw your own wars and kick your friends' asses until they all want one.

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 10:07 PM

Here's my question, How did you get the "bolt tooth" ( the thing aligns the dart with the barrel) to slide over the 9/16th brass? I've tried this before in the past and have run into this problem repeatedly.


I hope you don't mind if i reply, but i believe the 9/16th is small enough that the dart tooth goes over it then the copper that is over it is shorter for that reason ( so it doesn't get caught or in the way of the bolt tooth) i think that is why but i don't know completely
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 10:10 PM

Here's my question, How did you get the "bolt tooth" ( the thing aligns the dart with the barrel) to slide over the 9/16th brass? I've tried this before in the past and have run into this problem repeatedly.


It's not over, the brass actually starts right after the dart tooth. That's why you need the breech open when you ram the brass into the barrel; so that the brass stops going down when it hits the erected dart tooth. I just drew a shitty diagram in paint to clear up any confusion:

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:15 AM

What I'm refering to is the narrow "tooth" that extends out of the front of the bolt nub. That "tooth" keeps stopping at the brass and will not allow a barrel extension on there.
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 01:25 AM

What I'm refering to is the narrow "tooth" that extends out of the front of the bolt nub. That "tooth" keeps stopping at the brass and will not allow a barrel extension on there.


The tube does not cover the opening that allows the dart tooth to protrude into the "chamber". The tube opening begins right after the hole, and this allows the tooth to still pop up.
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