Smith & Wesson 1911 Style Foam Dart Gun
#1
Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:38 AM
This thing here. The unorignal named Foam Dart gun.
Out of the packet now and it looks nice, but way to realistic for my liking. Its fairly small and light, but i find my finger only just fits in the trigger guard. Its primed by pulling back the slide.
It comes with 6 decent red suction cup darts. as you can see there, the little piece inside the handle can hold 2 darts.
Stock, this thing can fire about 16 feet. I'd better fix that.
Start by removing the screws, and don't forget this one hidden under the slide.
And we're in. As you can see, it has an inverted plunger simmilar to a maverick.
If i put the two together, you can see that they are the same length, but the maverick one is wider. This photo was taken after the mod, so thats why the plunger suddenly changed.
Now I could have just drilled out the peg inside the stock barrel, but if I had the dart fit would have been very loose, becasue the stock barrel grips the dart on the inside. Also thats where the air is delivered. But I chose to rebarrel it. For the new barrel I'm using 8cm (thats about 3 inches) of Hep20. It was just an off cut i had lying around, which still had the sticker on it.
Now I'd better take a moment to explain what Hep20 is, because i'm sure almost none of you on here have never heard of it. Basicly its a flexable Polybutylene tubing with an outer diamater of 16mm and an internal diamater much like 17/32 brass. Though its flexable you don't have to worry about it bending at this length. For this mod, its external diameter is pretty much the same as the stock barrel.
Moving on now. You will need the rubber washer piece off the back of the stock barrel
Then glue it to the back of your new barrel. I used 2 part Epoxy glue here.
when its all dried you need to put the plunger back and then work out where the new barrel sits. Glue the barrel onto the shell of the gun to stop it flying out when its fired. The stock barrel had a ridge that held it in place at the front .
Now here's the most important step. before you put it back together, give it an eye raping paintjob.
With a new barrel it hits about 30-35 feet using tagger darts.
#2
Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:08 AM
However, jerm did this on his blog about a month ago.
One problem I've experinced with flexable tubing (I.e. Pex pvc) is that it will start to deform after one or two bends. Does this happen to hep20?
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#3
Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:20 AM
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#4
Posted 11 January 2010 - 03:20 AM
#5
Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:46 AM
Just a few things to conisder if i do beef up the spring.
The plunger compresses the spring in quite far. It compresses down to 2cm.
The little nub on the plunger connects to the nub on the inside of the slide which is what draws the plunger back. I wonder if it has enough to hold onto if there was a better spring inside.
#6
Posted 11 January 2010 - 03:01 PM
#7
Posted 11 January 2010 - 04:41 PM
The gun actually looks like a m1911, if you are in to realism.
Nice mod! I hope to see if you can get any more range out of it.
Edited by JATDO, 11 January 2010 - 04:41 PM.
#8
Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:07 PM
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#9
Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:31 PM
Just a few things to conisder if i do beef up the spring.
The plunger compresses the spring in quite far. It compresses down to 2cm.
You could probably just make a new spring rest and place it a bit farther back, right in front of that screw. This would allow you to replace the stock spring with a stronger spring that may be longer and have thicker coils.
Also, great writeup.
Edited by cheesypiza001, 11 January 2010 - 08:34 PM.
#10
Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:03 AM
#11
Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:13 AM
Self Preservation? Cops have showed up at many wars and a realistic dark looking gun will just make the more edgy. Nice gun though, is the quality of plastic ok.What's up with all the brightly colored paint jobs now a days.
Edited by Samzilla, 12 January 2010 - 12:13 AM.
#12
Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:30 AM
I haven't had any problems with deformation wilt Hep2o. at the size used there it dosen't even bend.One problem I've experinced with flexable tubing (I.e. Pex pvc) is that it will start to deform after one or two bends. Does this happen to hep20?
I got mine from here.Where'd you get this from? I want it....
The're awesome! Thats why.What's up with all the brightly colored paint jobs now a days.
EDIT: I managed to find an industrial spring which fit in well, and was more powerfull. But now its firing very inconsistantly, and getting worse ranges.
Edited by Roger Explosion, 12 January 2010 - 04:27 AM.
#13
Posted 12 January 2010 - 05:50 PM
What's up with all the brightly colored paint jobs now a days.
It's not nerf if the blasters aren't ridiculously colored or turned into alligators .
But you can totally shoot Vacc there, he loves it!
~Talio
#14
Posted 12 January 2010 - 06:44 PM
The spring catch looks somewhat weak, though may not be nearly as bad as the RFR's. It's still a consideration though and even with the stock spring it may be likely to wear out.
Does the "bottom" end of the barrel go all the way into the end of the plunger? If so, the inverted plunger may not be such a bad thing since there is no dead space. (sorry if that was obvious, but I haven't seen any inverted plungers without dead space yet)
#15
Posted 12 January 2010 - 06:54 PM
#16
Posted 12 January 2010 - 07:14 PM
And that is how gun paintjobs are supposed to be done. Bonus points for Technicolor animals. The exact opposite of so many flat-black PJs, and so much better for it. This is, even ignoring paintjob, a great mod. Almost 3 times the range, and it doesn't even have a barrel beyond what initially holds the dart. Congratulations, Roger Explosion. That is how first few posts should be.My eyes feel as if they have just been diddled.
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#17
Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:21 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw some of these at a local toy store, but I passed them over because they looked like junk. I'd be willing to go back now and look if anyone wants one, I'm unsure of the price, though.
#18
Posted 13 January 2010 - 02:21 PM
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#19
Posted 21 January 2010 - 06:17 PM
#20
Posted 21 January 2010 - 06:28 PM
Thanks-
Trout
#21
Posted 21 January 2010 - 06:52 PM
Could you use CPVC instead of the hep20? Or would it be too tight?
Thanks-
Trout
It all depends on your dart fit.
#22
Posted 22 January 2010 - 06:56 AM
#23
Posted 22 January 2010 - 09:12 PM
QUOTE(Poseidon @ Oct 2 2009, 05:28 PM)
Stalk... do you mean "stock" or are we talking about corn now?
#24
Posted 22 January 2010 - 09:20 PM
AAAAGGGGHHH you took a awesomely realistic looking blaster and made it look like another squirt gun
And you are going to get shot one of these days!!!!
That's about it. And thanks Angela who helped me with these pictures.. It looks huge in her hands.
HOLY CRAP!
FU ALL
#25
Posted 22 January 2010 - 09:37 PM
AAAAGGGGHHH you took a awesomely realistic looking blaster and made it look like another squirt gun
The airsoft forum is that way.
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