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#26 Ice Nine

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:54 PM

I never said anything about ramrodding. I blow my darts down PETG.


Congratulations on your MASSIVE time savings. You could save one, two minutes over a whole war!

I did some maths using my Man Cannon. To rear load the two open barrels takes four seconds (from darts in pocket to dart at the back of the barrel); to blow down the barrels takes ten seconds (from darts in pocket to darts at the back of the barrel); to ramrod takes sixteen seconds (from darts and ramrod in pocket to darts in the back of the barrel and ramrod in pocket).

Ryan, I'm pleased you replaced the pump. Now I have an extra second or two to run and hide while you get it to face-destroying pressures. Looking forward to that SM3000, and then my 1500 when we get back from Thanksgiving.
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#27 Ryan201821

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:55 PM

Like I said, it boils down to preference.


You must be into some kinky shit because ramrodding that many barrels to gain an extra .5s on the rotation (you still have to pump more than once) is pretty masochistic.

I never said anything about ramrodding. I blow my darts down PETG.

That's not all you blow.... :(

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I'm in line to get a couple Hornet pumps. This thing is in desperate need of one.

Edited by Ryan201821, 06 November 2009 - 02:09 PM.

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#28 SonReeceSonJensen

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 02:21 PM

I'm in line to get a couple Hornet pumps. This thing is in desperate need of one.


I gots one, fresh cut from the shell. I'm going to Rork de-crap my hornet so you can have the stock pump. PM me to get some info going.

Also, nice blaster: I love the bulk and the size of it, like a damn mini-gun.
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#29 Fredo

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 03:31 PM

Very nice work. You just turned a very underrated blaster into a face destroying machine. I would honestly ask to buy this from you but I know you won't be wanting to sell it. I also have a Hornet pump, but I'm sure you would want to buy one from someone who has done deals on this site, aka SonReeceSonJensen.
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#30 TantumBull

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 08:47 PM

That's not all you blow.... ^_^

I totally saw that coming, though I expected it from Zorn. I was about to edit it this morning, but was like, "nah, fuck it, I gotta get to school."
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#31 Ryan201821

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 03:40 AM

It's now semi-auto-ish.
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#32 BustaNinja

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:25 AM

I came.

Thats fucking sick.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 10:39 AM

I'm going outside to practice running and screaming.
Sick is an understatement.
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#34 JATDO

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:05 AM

Wow... That just make my thanks giving actually good!

I assume you are going to put an external air supply so you don't need to pump it 80 times right?
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 12:01 PM

Are you going to do what cartoon did to his DTB and add a valve, so that it doesn't always have to be semi-auto? it seems like it would be... cumbersome to have to pump this up during a war.
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#36 Ryan201821

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 01:08 PM

Are you going to do what cartoon did to his DTB and add a valve, so that it doesn't always have to be semi-auto? it seems like it would be... cumbersome to have to pump this up during a war.

Nope, it's probably going to stay the way it is. I can pump it 100 times and empty the turret at least twice.

EDIT: Definitely needs a bike pump. That shit takes forever to pump. I'm also contemplating whether or not to swap out the 4k tank for a 3k. The 3k's valve opening is so much bigger than the 4k's

Edited by Ryan201821, 26 November 2009 - 02:16 PM.

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#37 Soothsayer

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 04:45 PM

Somehow, overkill, just doesn't cut it. I can see why you guys call yourself the "unholy" three.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 05:54 PM

I tip my hat to you for not hooking up a pre-pressurized tank to that. I have a mod in the works that features true semi auto (pressurizing commenses a the beginning of the round of course), fed from an RF20 bladder, and will include a toggle valve so I can operate the blasted normally and not use the bladder. I highly reccomend you do the same, it would make it a lot more practical.
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#39 Ice Nine

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 07:18 PM

I tip my hat to you for not hooking up a pre-pressurized tank to that. I have a mod in the works that features true semi auto (pressurizing commenses a the beginning of the round of course), fed from an RF20 bladder, and will include a toggle valve so I can operate the blasted normally and not use the bladder. I highly reccomend you do the same, it would make it a lot more practical.


Yeah, because this pressurized at the beginning of the round is totally worse than that.

Literally all he has to do is put in two vinyl tubing tees and two of those ball valves for tubing, and it's way better than whatever the fuck you're doing. This hard tank will hold significantly more pressure and air.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 07:57 PM

I tip my hat to you for not hooking up a pre-pressurized tank to that. I have a mod in the works that features true semi auto (pressurizing commenses a the beginning of the round of course), fed from an RF20 bladder, and will include a toggle valve so I can operate the blasted normally and not use the bladder. I highly reccomend you do the same, it would make it a lot more practical.


Yeah, because this pressurized at the beginning of the round is totally worse than that.

Literally all he has to do is put in two vinyl tubing tees and two of those ball valves for tubing, and it's way better than whatever the fuck you're doing. This hard tank will hold significantly more pressure and air.

Haha, calm down dude. What are you all riled up about? I was trying to suggest a way to retain the original function of the blaster, not once did I say what I'm working on is better. Also, I'm aware of the differences between bladders and hard tanks. I apologize for complimenting Ryan's work, I'll be sure to clear it with you next time.

Edited by TantumBull, 26 November 2009 - 08:12 PM.

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#41 Ice Nine

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 10:24 PM

I apologize for complimenting Ryan's work, I'll be sure to clear it with you next time.


My point is that you keep dick-waving in Ryan's dick-waving threads. The majority of your posts in the 3K and 4K threads were saying things in support of auto-rotation over rear-loading in the turrets (dumb) and telling him how he could do the hard tank system better (also dumb).

I remember the last time there was a disagreement like this. You were supporting N-Strike clips over RSCBs. That sure turned out great, right? How about them different styles?

Edited by Ice Nine, 27 November 2009 - 01:49 AM.

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#42 TantumBull

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 12:00 AM

My point is that you keep dick-waving in Ryan's dick-waving threads.

For the record, I don't go out trying to improve the size of my e-dick. I could honestly care less about what random people on the internet think of me. I mean shit, this is the internet, I'm never going to meet most of the people on his site, so there's no reason to try to impress any of you.

With sincerity, I apologize if any of my posts in either threads came out as me being egotistical. The reason I referenced mods of mine or things I'm working on is because I felt them relevant to what I was trying to say in the post. Like I said, it was never the intention to dick-wag, and I'm sorry but it isn't my fault if you choose to interpret it as such.

The majority of your posts in the 3K and 4K threads were saying things in support of auto-rotation over rear-loading in the turrets (dumb) and telling him how he could do the hard tank system better (also dumb).

Maybe you should go reread the post in the 3k thread. I specifically said that I would prefer auto rotation, but that it really just depends on the nerfer. I referenced my mod for the sole purpose of offering an alternative for people who may have similar nerfing values. If none do, that's fine, but I never made that post to dick-wag.

You may also want to reread my post in this thread. What I suggested was completely unrelated to the fact he is using a hard tank. I'm not quit sure where you're getting that from. I was suggesting a way to not use the tank if that function was desired. Once again, I referenced something I'm working on because I felt it a relavant example. Now it may very well be true that Ryan already has a ball/toggle/butterfly what have you valve to cut connection from the tank. I couldn't tell from the video if he was opening and closing a valve in between trigger pulls. As for you callin my set-ups dumb, thats fine. We're two different nerfers with different values on the "field" (boy that sounded... just out of place).

I'm really not sure where all this animosity is coming from. I don't know if you're interpreting my posts differently than I intend them to be interpreted or what. This is all kind of silly. Maybe you could PM me and we could sort this out so my posts aren't an annoyance or an offense to anybody. Then again, its the internet, so I don't and I'm guessing you don't really care either way.

Edit: Oh noes! The Master of Airtechs and his legendary fellow clansmen don't like me, a lowly nerfing peasant. What ever shall I do to appease The Unholy Three?

Edited by TantumBull, 27 November 2009 - 12:46 AM.

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#43 Ryan201821

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 12:25 AM

What Zeke is trying to say is we don't like you, to be blunt. But yeah, back on topic.

This thing needs a 3k tank. And the video explains there is push button valve in between the tanks.

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Edit: Oh noes! The MasterofAirtechs and his legendary fellow clansmen don't like me, a lowly nerfing peasant. What ever shall I do to appease The Unholy Three?

You can shut up now.

Edited by Ryan201821, 27 November 2009 - 01:22 AM.

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#44 Samzilla

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 01:58 AM

Are you going to do what cartoon did to his DTB and add a valve, so that it doesn't always have to be semi-auto? it seems like it would be... cumbersome to have to pump this up during a war.

One of the alternate setup i think would work is if you connected the pump to a tee fitting in between the push button valve and 4k tank but i think a simple ball valve would work better than a push button valve in that situation.
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#45 Merzlin

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 02:07 AM

Oh noes! The Master of Airtechs and his legendary fellow clansmen don't like me, a lowly nerfing peasant. What ever shall I do to appease The Unholy Three?

You're fucking retarded.

Ryan, how many pumps do you think will fill the tank with a replaced pump, like a bike pump? Also, 3K tanks are the way to go.
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 03:12 AM

Edit: Oh noes! The Master of Airtechs and his legendary fellow clansmen don't like me, a lowly nerfing peasant. What ever shall I do to appease The Unholy Three?


I so agree.

You guys are a bunch of fussy, argumentative E-thugs who gang up on any poster who remotely disagrees with or contradicts one of your buddies. No one cares about your fucking clan or your super sweet modding parties or your gun-naming ceremonies (ie. "the man stick" or "the dick cannon", yeah, it's really not that creative). I bet you guys just high-fived because one of you fucking geniuses thought up the idea of putting green felt disks on a 2-liter of Mountain Dew so you could mod even harder into the wee hours of the night!

But on topic:

Great gun, love the contributions. :P

#47 Zorns Lemma

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 03:18 AM

Merz, a hand bike pump has the same air output as an At3k pump, but has infinitely better seal and efficiency. Ryan, you should put another fitting on the hard tank so you can hook up a real bike pump, the kind you can stand on and is 3' with 2" diameter.

What ever shall I do to appease The Unholy Ménage à Trois?


My modding would be infinitely better with a CAD program, laser cutter, and knowledge of trigonometry.

You guys are a bunch of fussy, argumentative E-thugs who gang up on any poster who remotely disagrees with or contradicts one of your buddies.


Dun be hatin' just 'cuz we get madz ghey sexytiem wid' tehm nerf gunz.

Edited by Zorn's Lemma, 27 November 2009 - 03:20 AM.

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#48 TantumBull

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 03:24 AM

Oh my god, this is actually hilarious. Keep it coming.
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#49 Zorns Lemma

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 03:30 AM

Keep it coming.


Yes sir.

P.s. I know getting all of my semen off of your face will take a while, but when can I get my laser cutter?

Edited by Zorn's Lemma, 27 November 2009 - 03:35 AM.

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 12:41 PM

Knock it the fuck off and get back on topic. Next person who talks shit gets the thread closed and a 6 month ban.
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