#1
Posted 17 March 2004 - 05:43 PM
#2
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:04 PM
#3
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:10 PM
#4
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:12 PM
So... what the hell are you talking about? We all know how Nerf guns are made.
#5
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:40 PM
#6
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:47 PM
I have 7 kids.
7!? Lady I love my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth once and a while!-Groucho Marks(The End of Live TV)
#7
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:47 PM
my advice would be to just mod the gun then sell it insted of takin out the insides and makin a new gun
Edited by poopsabe, 17 March 2004 - 06:50 PM.
#8
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:49 PM
I have 7 kids.
7!? Lady I love my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth once and a while!-Groucho Marks(The End of Live TV)
#9
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:53 PM
but wouldnt that be hard if u dont have a plastic press to make the shape of the outside of the gun let alone the detailed parts of the barrels and such that nerf makes
Edited by poopsabe, 17 March 2004 - 06:55 PM.
#10
Posted 17 March 2004 - 06:59 PM
As far as legality, assuming the outer casing was different than the original gun, it's a gray area. There's no way he'd be prosecuted though unless he stamped Nerf on the side of the gun...
#11
Posted 17 March 2004 - 07:05 PM
Yeah, I know - not the same thing. I just had to post, as I remember Spoon and I cracking up in Cx's garage before Armageddon last year when we noticed it.
"It will be NERF! GAH!"
"Too close for missiles, I'm switchin' to guns"
#12
Posted 17 March 2004 - 07:37 PM
Don't forget to eat your meat based vegetable substitute children.
#13
Posted 17 March 2004 - 11:47 PM
And essentially all Nerf guns and homemades are like this... Pump with a valve and air tank along with a barrell... Or spring and plunger and barrell...
~Mystic~
#14
Posted 18 March 2004 - 01:31 AM
If someone reverse engineers a toy, and makes a copy of it, I do not see how they can get into trouble unless they started to mass produce and sell the copies. As Cx said, taking basic parts or ideas from a gun, and making a similar gun with a different look is rather in the grey area in terms of copyright violations.
If you are doing this for personal reasons (making your own guns), I don't think that there is anything to worry about, but if you are doing it to make money, it might be a good idea to check with a legal expert before you get started.
Edited by Oroku_Saki, 18 March 2004 - 01:41 AM.
#15
Posted 18 March 2004 - 02:30 PM
Techno-Dann of the Seattle Tactical Nerf Team
#16
Posted 18 March 2004 - 02:52 PM
Well, of course you did'nt get what he was talking about. Your names poopsabe for godsake.huh i dont get wat ur talkin about, reverse engineering?
Edited by 1/2 Newb 1/2 Nerfer, 18 March 2004 - 02:53 PM.
#17
Posted 18 March 2004 - 03:17 PM
If I remember correctly you can pretty much do whatever you want with patented designs for personal use but if you make money off of it then you are in trouble. I once met a guy at Disneyland that worked at a print shop and he was wearing a cool Disney themed shirt that he had made. Since he didn't make any money off of it Disney really didn't care.If you are doing this for personal reasons (making your own guns), I don't think that there is anything to worry about, but if you are doing it to make money, it might be a good idea to check with a legal expert before you get started.
#18
Posted 18 March 2004 - 04:45 PM
Also if i make replicas of the pieces of nerf guns out of a stronger substance then plastic, like a metal crossbow plunger shaft, that should make patents void.
Could someone take these measurements on a lock and load:
plunger shaft length, plunger shaft diameter, piston tube length, barrel length (from the end of the piston tube to tip)
Edited by THEengineer, 18 March 2004 - 05:16 PM.
#19
Posted 18 March 2004 - 05:11 PM
I have 7 kids.
7!? Lady I love my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth once and a while!-Groucho Marks(The End of Live TV)
#20
Posted 18 March 2004 - 05:58 PM
#21
Posted 18 March 2004 - 09:33 PM
Just get a job. You'll make more money for your time.
- Death
#22
Posted 19 March 2004 - 12:14 AM
The injection machine book is here: http://www.lindsaybk...ject/index.html
With my job and stuff, I haven't gotten around to building the injection machine, but I think it may prove useful in making smaller parts.
For the larger parts, it may be more of a challenge. One idea that I can think of is to vacuum form plastic to a plaster mold. Vaccum forming is used by movie prop makers. (one of the most well-known uses is for Stormtrooper Armor) Basically, a vacuum form unit is a table with a hole in the middle. Under the table, a vacuum hose is hooked up, and the mold is placed over the hole. When molding, the softened plastic is sucked onto the mold by the vacuum.
Edit: I just found out that Lindsay also prints a book on vacuum forming, which is at this link: http://www.lindsaybk...vacf/index.html
Looking at the pictures of this Vacuum Forming machine, I think that some of the other prop making places on the internet have ideas for making a simpler and cheaper vacuum forming table.
One of my favorite prop sites has a good section on vacuum forming, which is here: http://www.studiocre...able/index.html
Another idea that I was thinking about would be to somehow make parts from metal or other materials. If only I had easier access to metal machining equipment.
UPDATE: Speaking of patents, if Hasbro had anything patented on their Nerf guns, they would have the patent information listed on the box or the gun itself. Looking at all the Nerf guns that I own, I do not see anything marked for this. The only thing that I see is a copyright date. I even checked on the box for the Nite Finder, and all I see is a copyright date. This probably explains why Lanard has not gotten into trouble for reverse engineering Nerf guns, since they don't slap the Nerf label on their stuff.
Edited by Oroku_Saki, 19 March 2004 - 05:06 PM.
#23
Posted 24 March 2004 - 05:53 PM
Really, Nerf guns use the same mechanism and system to fire. As I said, pump, air tank, barrel, or plunger, spring, barrel.
~Mystic~
Edited by MysticFalcon182, 24 March 2004 - 05:54 PM.
#24
Posted 24 March 2004 - 06:04 PM
#25
Posted 24 March 2004 - 09:28 PM
Simply taking a "lego" approach to the whole idea will obviously be a lot easier, so unless vacuum sealing is easier to learn and set up than I imagine, its main applications seem to be in casings, and some other large-scale specialized parts. So really, aesthetics. Which a lot of designs could use, in retrospect...
Awesome linking, thanks!
- Death
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