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[Spawn of the Freak]

Hello fellow nerfers.

I just finished my first modification, which I will post ASAP.

After finishing my mod, I was thinking of a good mod that would be useful and aesthetically pleasing to the eye. I knew I wanted to do something with my Longshot shell, the remnants of once a great weapon. So I looked at my LS and wondered what I could possibly do with it... Then I looked at my Magstrike, and then at the Longshot. And that sparked a great idea.

Placing Magstrike or RF20 internals inside the LS shell so as to make the Longshot an automatic / semi-automatic assault rifle.

As well as modifying the LS/Recon clip to fire fully automatic rounds.

But I'm unsure if it would work.

So I turn to all the members of NerfHaven for your word on whether this would be a success or not.

So, would this work?

[Echnalaid]

Son of a bitch, not another one. Just letting you know (not to sound like an ass hat) countless new people have asked if a longshot can be full auto. To simply put it-
It will not work. It will never work. If it does you're on an acid trip.

Edited by Echnalaid, 19 September 2009 - 07:20 PM.

[SchizophrenicMC]

You could make the entirety of the gun a stock, with the RF20's turret up front, somehow, and the tank inside there. Problem being the RF-20 bladder is bigger around than a Longshot.

I've looked at magstrike integrations from every angle after I trashed my shell, and given up on all of them. They're not worth it. Nothing fits the inflated bladder, anyway.

[TantumBull]

What are you guys talking about, its totally possible. First remove all the LS internals except for the bolt sled and barrel. Throw them away, they're pretty useless anyways. Then, use a dremel to cut out a BIG slot at the back half of the LS and epoxy the magstrike to it. Then connect the advancing arm to the bolt sled and use 1/100" ID vinyl tubing to go from the MS air outlet to the back of the LS bolt.

Totally feasible and will definitely work. Post pictures of your cuts on your LS when you're done so I can see if you did it right. Make sure they go through the area where the handle and plunger tube were so you have room for your magstrike, and who cares, you don't need the LS internals in there again anyway.

Edited by TantumBull, 19 September 2009 - 08:57 PM.

[carlough]

What are you guys talking about, its totally possible. First remove all the LS internals except for the bolt sled and barrel. Throw them away, they're pretty useless anyways. Then, use a dremel to cut out a BIG slot at the back half of the LS and epoxy the magstrike to it. Then connect the advancing arm to the bolt sled and use 1/100" ID vinyl tubing to go from the MS air outlet to the back of the LS bolt.

Totally feasible and will definitely work. Post pictures of your cuts on your LS when you're done so I can see if you did it right. Make sure they go through the area where the handle and plunger tube were so you have room for your magstrike, and who cares, you don't need the LS internals in there again anyway.

So your saying the movement of the magstrike internals could open and close the breech?
Or did I read that wrong?

[MoonMaster]

The magstrike piston moves less than an inch. There's no way they're opeining and closing any breaches. I think he mans that you should use the magstrike clip.

[wingd man]

You could put the clip through the jam door, or maybe cut up a lot of a longshot and stick it on a magstrike.

[Spawn of the Freak]

Wow. I didn't think of it in ANY of those ways. I'll give it a try. Thanks guys.

[TantumBull]

Yeah, carlough, my idea will work. I just finished my magstrike LS which is currently hitting 130 (140 with a good dart) with a modified piston. Its cycling about 10 darts per second, so it eats up a clip in about half a second. Double raider clip, anyone? I'll post pics later when I have time.

Edited by TantumBull, 20 September 2009 - 08:56 PM.

[OnyxZenith]

Or instead of making a longshot semi automatic and automatic... Why don't you just buy a magstrike? Ever stop to think of that?

[Zorns Lemma]

Yeah, carlough, my idea will work. I just finished my magstrike LS which is currently hitting 130 (140 with a good dart) with a modified piston. Its cycling about 10 darts per second, so it eats up a clip in about half a second. Double raider clip, anyone? I'll post pics later when I have time.

Despite your incompetence with the English language, what you suggest is actually possible. Albeit not in the way anyone in this thread has said so far.

Either way though, this thread is stupid, and so is everyone in it (especially me).

Edited by Zorn's Lemma, 20 September 2009 - 09:09 PM.

[TantumBull]

Of course it's possible, I already did it.

[Spawn of the Freak]

Of course it's possible, I already did it.

You did?! make a write-up man i wanna see it!

[Spawn of the Freak]

Or instead of making a longshot semi automatic and automatic... Why don't you just buy a magstrike? Ever stop to think of that?

Earth to Dumbass. I clearly said i HAVE a magstrike up in my first post. Or can you not read?

[KeiichiRX7]

Or instead of making a longshot semi automatic and automatic... Why don't you just buy a magstrike? Ever stop to think of that?

Earth to Dumbass. I clearly said i HAVE a magstrike up in my first post. Or can you not read?

*nudge* double posting usually draws the ire of the admins. Just a friendly heads-up.


Also Tantum, can you take some pictures of how you extended the stroke of the Magstrike action?

[Zack the Mack]

TantumBull cheated, he hacked into Nerf's server, stole the schematics for the Spartan NCS-12, and ripped them off.

The problem with the idea is that the Longshot's repeater mechanism is nothing like the Magstrike's. When you pull the Longshot's bolt back and push it forward, it pushes one of the darts from the clip into an internal barrel. They don't fire directly from the clip like the Magstrike.

You could probably integrate the Magstrike's internals into the Longshot so the air power fires a dart, but you'd still need to manually use the bolt to chamber a dart, which defeats the purpose.

If you had some serious modding chops, you might be able to integrate the Magstrike internals into the Longshot shell, so it's just a Magstrike in a Longshot's body. That would probably be a hell of a lot more trouble than it's worth, especially because the Magstrike fires from two positions and the Longshot only has one barrel extension.

It's possible to use a motor or something to actuate the bolt and get your full-auto. It's already been done, and it's called the Vulcan.

[NerfPancakes]

Ehhh I doubt anything would work. The breach and/or boltsled would break instantly from the sheer force of all the air held in the magstrike blatter. Also, there would be no room. Possibly an angel breach and a remade metal boltsled could work, but even with that you would need to go overboard with fbr to reduce recoil and cushion the metal. Possibly you could replace the ls stock with the magstrike bladder and put that against your should in a war. With a lot of bladder protection of course. Especially since you say your new to modding, I'd say this won't have a 1 percent chance of working.

EDIT: Also you would need some sort of motor.

Edited by NerfPancakes, 21 September 2009 - 01:01 PM.

[flounder]

I don't think your shields can deflect sarcasm of that magnitude. Aside from the posts that are obvious jokes I don't think any of this will work...

[zepher]

well you never now but good luck to all of you that are attempting this integration mod so anyway i would try that mod if i had a longshot and if i new someone that has got it to work so anyway best of luck to all of you that are doin it

ZEPHER

[carlough]

well you never now but good luck to all of you that are attempting this integration mod so anyway i would try that mod if i had a longshot and if i new someone that has got it to work so anyway best of luck to all of you that are doin it

ZEPHER

Wait....
So we stick the shpoopa in the loomapoo and then jam it up your ass till you speak english?

Sorry. I'm sorry. But seruisly the mods will probably be after you for that sentence(there are NO periods). Just a word of advice. Sorry again. NO ONE DARE SIG THAT.

But I am interested in how you did this Tantum. A write up would be very much appreciated. I want to see how you enlarged the pistons stroke.

FYI. Season 6 of House is on at 8 TODAY.

Edited by carlough, 21 September 2009 - 04:36 PM.

[Bedhed117]

Guys Tantum said that he did it. That means its possible. How he did it I haven't the foggiest idea but that guy has made crazy shit before.

[TantumBull]

Okay, I was gonna go as far as photoshop, but this has gone on long enough. It stopped being funny for me when people started complimenting me for something I obviously didn't do.

Really, guys? I totally thought that 140 feet and 10 dps would throw some of you off, but apparently not. There's no way you could make a breech chamber foam without ripping the dart to shreds that fast (without shells at least).

It started as a mockery of the OP, and honestly I'm surprised more of you didn't catch on.

Now, onto the reasons why my "idea" is retarded.

A. as pointed out, you would need to make the arm stroke much longer to actuate an LS breech. Very, very hard to do, and at that point you might as well remake the piston and advancing arm.
B. that advancing arm would have to be flying to actuate a brass'd LS's breech
C. Everything would be a bitch and a half to make work together.
D. It would be big as fuck

So basically, some genius might be able to pull it off. But if they were a genius, they'd quickly see that the whole idea of an automatic longshot is retarded when there already is a magstrike that can hit nice ranges when modded correctly. Not to mention oodalumps RF20. Suggestion to the OP: replicate that mod.

Edited by TantumBull, 21 September 2009 - 07:17 PM.

[Bedhed117]

Oh. Coming from anyone else I would have flamed them but Tantum was reputable enough that I belived him. I figured that if anyone could do it it would be him (or Slug/Angel). Also I thought that the ranges were the six darts from the longshot clip added together. That'd put ranges at about 24 feet. Clearly I'm an idiot, my bad.

Edited by Bedhed117, 21 September 2009 - 08:55 PM.