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#1 Poseidon

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:34 PM

First off, yes I searched. Now, as I've never been a pro at science, I thought someone might be able to better explain this. I was just pondering the thought of having a winter nerf war (outside of course). I live in Buffalo, NY so I'd probably be doing this at some point when it's hopefully not snowing and we have a couple of feet of snow on the ground. Before I do this, I would obviously want to know what effects this would have on our weaponry. I wouldn't be too worried about springers as long as they don't have any gaping holes in then but I didn't know if the contraction of air would have an adverse effect on air pumps. Any insight on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:40 PM

If you were to nerf in winter there would be a greater chance of an airgun's tank exploding due to the plastic or glue the tank is made of becoming brittle and weak. The O-ring in the pump could also contract causing it to potentially not work.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:04 PM

For the winter I would go with an air gun personally because the winters cold doesn't hurt anything in and air blaster rather it can stall movement in a spring gun, so I have heard at least.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:15 PM

It will probably affect your darts more. They will shrink, becoming looser in your barrel. Unless you smash your gun on something hard, I don't think anything that bad will happen.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:25 PM

Contrary to what Icespartan said, air guns are a bad choice. the cold very quickly compromises the integrity of tubing in most guns. I would not even consider using anything with a bladder.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:34 PM

Contrary to what Icespartan said, air guns are a bad choice. the cold very quickly compromises the integrity of tubing in most guns. I would not even consider using anything with a bladder.


Yep, that's what I was afraid of. I don't plan on being out there too long at a crack so I figure the springers would at least be okay for that time.

As for the darts, I've shot them out in the winter before and haven't seen any shrinking. I use modified stock darts, could that have anything to do with it?
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:47 PM

We had several winter wars this last season. Some experiences:

- Certain air guns have problems in the cold. My AT2k and SS2 would not hold air in the winter.
- Hot glue fails in very cold weather.
- Dart/barrel fit is problematic (shrinkage).

A lot of people say that guns are less durable in the winter (plastic becoming brittle, etc.), but I'm not convinced of the truth of that. I didn't have any more or less problems in the winter than the summer. Also, Big Blasts seem to work just fine in the winter.

I generally prefer springers over airguns because I know they'll work okay when I play in the winter. 3Bs, NFs, +Bows and Maxshots should perform about the same in the winter as in the summer (provided your darts don't become too loose). Some foam doesn't vary too much with temperature; Mile High Black foam comes to mind. I don't think stock darts will shrink very much, as they use very dense foam.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 07:03 PM

Some foam doesn't vary too much with temperature


What's the likelihood that they will return to normal size if they do? I'd rather not waste a few hundred darts for one night.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:08 PM

Some foam doesn't vary too much with temperature


What's the likelihood that they will return to normal size if they do? I'd rather not waste a few hundred darts for one night.

Pretty much 100%, The air that is trapped inside the foam when it is manufactured contracts due to colder temperatures, less molecular energy. When the foam is brought back up to room temperature the air will expand again and return it to normal size.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:22 PM

Okay, you kids have a way of not listening to guys with alot of experience and listening to the random members who have been nerfing for less then a year. So let me tell you I've nerfed alot during the winter and I can say without a doubt that airguns are slightly effected. You see a bit less range and more wild shots. Spring guns don't seem to be effected at all. And honestly, that's the end of discussion. Anyone who's nerfed in cold climates more then a handful of times will say the same thing. The rest is pure speculation and bullshit.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:31 PM

Exposed PETG will shatter upon hitting the ground. I dropped my Big Sally and all 4 barrels shattered like glass. It was freezing outside.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:12 PM

"I was just pondering the thought of having a winter nerf war (outside of course)"

Because you have never heard of Minnesota?

Ok, air guns lose some range, and darts shink. Use tight barrels, and try to stay away from air guns like the 2k. Big Blasts have so much power it doesn't matter.

Spring guns work the best, but you want to pad the plunger heads so they don't destroy themselves.

Remember, this info is all taken from ACTUAL war experience in the snow, and in Minnesota's real winter temperatures (meaning below 20 degrees F)
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:16 PM

Okay, you kids have a way of not listening to guys with alot of experience and listening to the random members who have been nerfing for less then a year. So let me tell you I've nerfed alot during the winter and I can say without a doubt that airguns are slightly effected. You see a bit less range and more wild shots. Spring guns don't seem to be effected at all. And honestly, that's the end of discussion. Anyone who's nerfed in cold climates more then a handful of times will say the same thing. The rest is pure speculation and bullshit.


Thanks, that's all I needed to know.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:42 PM

And be prepared to lose most or all of your darts if there is snow...
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 10:09 PM

Also here's another topic you might have missed LINKY
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:12 AM

Also here's another topic you might have missed LINKY


Ah, thanks, I had tried key words winter and snow but not cold... my bad.
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