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Just like our friends in Cinci. Saturday, 7/11/09

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#1 Split

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:21 PM

So I've wanted to have a war like this since I first heard about the idea. I talked to the Valhalla 2 guys, and they said that they'd rather me not do it before them, but after 2 months, none of them can give me a date. So I picked one. This date should work best for everyone around here. It's 2 weeks after Deal, not on 4th of July, and 2 weeks before Apoc.

So if you guy's haven't heard about this war type, it's pretty awesome. I'll probably be expanding upon the ruleset as time goes on, and I'm sure it will vary greatly from the Cinci guys'.

The main idea is that you bring a New in box blaster and tools, and at the start of the war, you mod the gun on site, then use that for the whole of the day. It's like a modification competition and nerf war all wrapped up in one. Credit for the idea for this war goes entirely to the guys in Cincinnati, Twitch and Bobafan in particular. It's their game type - I just modified the rules a bit.

Host(s): Split

Date: Saturday, July 11th, 2009

Location: Mill Creek Park, Ocean County, NJ

Time: Starts at 10:00 AM, Ends around dusk, likely around 6 o'clock. Get there early! The sooner we have enough people, the sooner we can start the mod. If you come late, you have less time to mod!

Directions: Google Maps *Updated*
If you need any help finding the place, and/or are prone to getting lost, PM me, and I will provide my cell number just in case.

Rules:
I expect everyone to know how this works for the most part by the time we get there. I will, of course, be available to clarify anything.

The game type:
* Bring at least one New in box blaster. You're allowed to bring multiples and sets, even encouraged.
* NIB blaster means sealed. Not cut open and re-taped - factory sealed. No "mint in box" examples.
** If it's something like a big blast, where it has the missiles accessible and separate, and (for example) the missiles are missing, you're allowed to use it. Make sure to check with me if there is any question.
* Bring darts before hand. Stock darts or stefans, whatever you choose. I'm not going to limit this to stock darts because of cost, and partly effectiveness.
* I will be experimenting at home with the amounts of time to allow for modifying. I am leaning towards 1.5 hours, but we'll see as the date approaches.
* Bring barrel material, precut if you'd like. All extra modding materials, such as epoxy puddy and the like, do not have to be NIB.
* We will all start modding at the same time, and I will use a timer to keep track. If you are late, you start late, and do not get extra time.
* Round rules will be pretty much typical. Mostly 3:15, with some 4:20 thrown in. We may switch between 2-4 teams, as well as different ways of picking teams.
** Depending on how the mods turn out, we may be able to play from gunslinger, or limited ammo rounds. Don't plan for CTF, but a VIP round is possible.
* You are allowed to bring "precut" portions of material (such as polycarbonate or aluminum), though it is not encouraged. When bringing materials for your mods, the materials should not already be modded. For example, if I were modding a NIB Crossbow, I could bring the materials for a replacement plunger tube and coupler, but I can not bring a finished replacement plunger tube. This rule is where most of the grey area is for this game type, so keep in mind that my calls on this matter are final.
** A disassembled +bow is not NIB. Even if you bring a NIB blaster, you can not use the +bow, because as a blaster, it was not NIB.

Gun rules:
* No Titans. You can bring Unity Sets, but you're not allowed to use the titan from it. Everything else, including RFDG's should be crippled enough by the modding rules. This is mainly a safety hazard, because it takes me about 10 minutes to single and beef up a titan, and I can't think of any other blasters like that.
* Do not plug the pumps on any (air powered, obviously) blasters that originally shoot anything bigger than a mega dart. Also, no tank expansions on any air guns of that caliber.
* No HPA/CO2 tank mods.
* I'm allowing converted "paintball guns" if they're spring powered, such as the Pistol and Thundersplat.

Tools:
* There will be no electrical outlets available for things like hot glue guns. At most, very small flames are allowed. I'd recommend matches or similar for hot glue. Butane torches are extremely erotic - if you have something else you can use, use it. Epoxy will likely be a good friend.
* I'm going to allow cordless power tools. I feel it gives an extra level to the potential mods. You'll want to make sure the batteries are all fully charged; bring extras. This includes power drills and Dremels.
** I doubt this will be a problem, but I'd like all power sources to be non-AC. That basically means don't bring power generators or things that power electrical outlets.
* Please, no overly dangerous tools. Jig tables (upside down jig saws, typically mounted to a piece of wood) even if cordless, are very dangerous. I also don't want anyone bringing circular saws for whatever reason.
* If you're under 18, I want you to have safety protection. Gloves, glasses at the minimum. No loose clothing, dangling chains or whatever. Just trying to cover all of the bases, but I'd prefer this go off with out any injuries. Safety is top priority.
* Aerosol lubricants are allowed, as well as adhesives with solvents (goop, etc.). There is no reason to bring spray paint or vinyl dye. Please don't.
* Bring all of your own tools. You probably won't want to share in the middle of modding anyway. If anyone really doesn't have any tools, I may be able to provide a basic set. I will have a cordless drill to pass around, but you're still encouraged to bring your own.
* You'll probably want marking tools as well, such as sharpies and pencils.
** A quick list of recommended items to bring:
Tools - Utility knife, screwdrivers, pliars, speed square/ruler, mini hacksaw, wrenches, pipe cutters
Adhesives - Superglue, epoxy/epoxy puddy, electrical tape, lubricant, raw hot glue sticks if needed
Materials - Barrel material (brass, petg cpvc), o-rings?, replacement springs, etc.

Formalities:
* Bring water. It'll be the middle of July in New Jersey humidity. There will also be a break for lunch per normal.
* Bring your own guns, ammo, and tools. If you think you will need something, don’t hope that others will bring it.
* Eye protection is going to be required for those under 18.
* If we have enough people who bring either extra NIB blasters, or just bring pre-modified blasters, we could do a second round of modding, or just rounds with already modded blasters, if the attendees wanted to.
* We'll be meeting, setting up, and modding in the main pavilion at the park.


Attendence:
Definite: (12)
Split
Langley
Alice
Dark Shrimp
One Man Clan
Koree
Echnalaid
Bpso86
Ice
Gears
Icespartan_1114
Muttonchops

Maybe: (4)
Danomite/Baked Tater
Zachattack
Dizzy
ballisticjoe

I think this game type has a lot of potential! Depending on when Valhalla 2 is, this may be the first time it will be tried. Let's make it happen!

Edited by Split, 10 July 2009 - 01:28 PM.

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#2 BakedTater

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:35 PM

Put me down as a maybe right now.
I'll let you know on Saturday if I can go or not.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:42 PM

I'll try to come.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 02:30 PM

I'll know more as we come closer to the date, but if I'm not in North Carolina or Maine, I'm in.
And if not, there better be another one of these, it sounds like my kinda war.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 07:46 PM

Can I borrow tools from a clan mate if he comes?
If I bring for example a Big Bad Bow/Big Blast for a Primary, and bring a Nitefinder to mod there as a sidearm, can I use both in conjunction? I know you said I can bring more than one, so that means I can use 'em at the same time, right?
If I bring a Big Bad Bow, can I have a pre-cut washer to use to reinforce it?
If I bring an NIB Vulcan, open the box for the first time, can I use it?
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 08:49 PM

Count me in broseph. This looks like it will be chicken McAwesome.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:08 PM

I'm just informing people that there are cordless hot glue guns. Sure Bonder 60 Watt Also I'm just curious why can't you just bring stock guns? I see that some people might try to sneak a little mod past you but a majority will bring NIB so you could just real quick check the few that will be LNIB. Now I'm not saying you have to do this, I understand that it is A LOT of work just putting this together. So it's your rules and what you say goes, and I think that's the way it should be. I think it would be a good idea to post where to get tools of some type of quality fairly cheap.

EDIT: I just made a list with part numbers sorta universal basic really. I'm trying to figure out how to just make a download link for MS Word.

Edited by Shrub, 11 June 2009 - 10:49 PM.

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#8 Split

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 11:48 PM

Can I borrow tools from a clan mate if he comes?
If I bring for example a Big Bad Bow/Big Blast for a Primary, and bring a Nitefinder to mod there as a sidearm, can I use both in conjunction? I know you said I can bring more than one, so that means I can use 'em at the same time, right?
If I bring a Big Bad Bow, can I have a pre-cut washer to use to reinforce it?
If I bring an NIB Vulcan, open the box for the first time, can I use it?

In order:
Yes, I have no problem with you borrowing someone's tools if they let you, but don't expect to use someone-you-don't-know's set.
If they're all NIB, you're completely welcome to it.
Yeah, there's a bit in there about pre-cut parts. You can bring pre-cut, but not pre-assembled.
Bring batteries. :o

I'm just curious why can't you just bring stock guns?

Are you even coming? Anyway, by only allowing NIB blasters limits the gun pool for the most part. People are only going to be bringing commonly available things for the most part, but still allows the variety of the older guns, should someone have something cool NIB.
Also, for the first time around at least, I don't want to deal with checking every gun for it being stock.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:54 AM

No I'm not coming. I just thought I would ask. Fore what you don't not know ask Split and he shall know/reason. Ah so less blasters and less old simpler guns allowing for more creative and efficient modding techniques.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 06:44 AM

Count me in.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:40 PM

Ill be there.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:03 PM

It will be worth noting that since I am coming, I will have PLENTY of PETG available for sale. Use it while you can get it there.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:36 PM

Just wanted to post up these links as a general interest:
Cordless glue gun - requires 4 AA batteries, potentially rechargeable ones MSRP $24.99 (not positive, but that's what I found) - $10.95+shipping
http://www.lakeside......Ntt=?GGU&N=36

ColdHeat Rechargeable Glue gun- MSRP $29.99, $19.95+shipping
http://www.grandepor...Glue-Gun/Detail

Edit: Disclaimer: I haven't tried any of these sites, but they're pretty reasonable deals. Nothing wild, and the checkout services seem to work fine. I take no responsibility if they rip you off or diddle your sister and the like.

Edited by Split, 15 June 2009 - 03:39 PM.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:47 PM

Nevermind.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:50 PM

** I doubt this will be a problem, but I'd like all power sources to be non-AC. That basically means don't bring power generators or things that power electrical outlets.

I just want to take this editted out post to make this little rule clear. I don't want people using cars to power hot glue guns, for various reasons. If you need to know why, PM me.

Edited by Split, 15 June 2009 - 08:58 PM.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 02:45 PM

Looking at the attendence list, I realize I don't know the modding abilities of the people who have responded to attend as well. I'd like to point out that it's probably not a good idea to make something wild and crazy unless you're either really confident, or bring something simple as a backup (such as a NIB big blast you can just rebarrel, in case something should happen to the other).

I should be bringing some NIB blasters for sale as well, just in case, or if you're looking for something in particular that you don't normally have access to.
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Posted 25 June 2009 - 07:26 PM

What the hell, put me down as a maybe. If I'm reading that link correctly, it's only a hop skip and a jump from my new place of work, and I'd love to try this out and meet some new people. Split, can you pm me your cell #, as I may get lost on my way out (I still have no idea where anything is around Philly).
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 09:16 PM

I'll try to make it if I can get a ride up there.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 09:37 PM

I'll try to make it if I can get a ride up there.

All the more reason for me to come.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 09:42 PM

I'll try to make it if I can get a ride up there.

Alright, now it's a party!
Let's see what kind of kickass paintjob you can do with a set of Sharpies!

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 04:18 PM

Something to do afterward, if anyone's interested:
http://nerfhaven.com...showtopic=17092
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:36 AM

A little more than a week away. I'd like to get some more definites.
Right now, I should have 3 Nib Big Salvos and 3 Nib 2k's to resell, in case anyone wants/needs one.

Also koree, that's what she said.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:50 AM

I'm coming.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 07:16 PM

Sorry everyone, it looks like I'm going to be in Maine that particular weekend. (moxiefest... look it up, I'm not explaining that shit here)

On another note, I really hope there will be another one of these, it sounds like an amazing idea. I have an NiB nightfinder to use when there is another one.


I think it would be a good plan if someone at the war took a picture of the better mods people did in such short time.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 10:41 PM

Sorry everyone, it looks like I'm going to be in Maine that particular weekend. (moxiefest... look it up, I'm not explaining that shit here)

On another note, I really hope there will be another one of these, it sounds like an amazing idea. I have an NiB nightfinder to use when there is another one.


I think it would be a good plan if someone at the war took a picture of the better mods people did in such short time.

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So you're ditching us to drink soda?
All kidding aside, I'm very likely to come.
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