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#1 idk59

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:50 PM

Hey nerfhaveners. I just made a some what well working CPVC magstrike clip. The barrels are all 3 inches each and have a good seal because of plumbers goop. Unfortunately, the stefens are only getting about average stock magstrike clips with the a-r's taken out. I've heard from others who have CPVC'ed their clips that their stefens went about 50-60 ft. I was wondering if I did anything wrong or maybe someone can give me an advice for the length of the barrels. Thanks.
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#2 spartan062

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:01 AM

Could you please post pics so that we can help you better?

EDIT: Actually, your barrels may be too long. I would suggest making them not much longer than the stock barrels if any longer at all.

Edited by spartan.062, 23 May 2009 - 12:11 AM.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:37 AM

Dart fit probably. CPVC is the tightest of the commonly used barrel materials, and much smaller than the stock barrels. Likely the stefans you made are too tight in the barrels, so it takes too much energy to start it moving, and the range suffers. Not anything new, just search around a bit.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 10:17 AM

Dart fit probably. CPVC is the tightest of the commonly used barrel materials, and much smaller than the stock barrels. Likely the stefans you made are too tight in the barrels, so it takes too much energy to start it moving, and the range suffers.

Above statement is mostly true, CPVC is generally used as replacement barrel material for springers, -not air guns- which actually assists ranges because of the added friction.

Your options are to either rip them out and try 9/16ths brass/PETG, or make stefans that fit by buying another brand of foam or stretching the foam you already use.



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Posted 23 May 2009 - 11:08 AM

A magstrike is a springer, in case you didn't know. Try putting a CPVC coupler on a barrel and then lengthening the CPVC. If that doesn't work, then your darts are probably the cause.
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#6 NightFindersFTW

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 11:35 AM

A magstrike is a springer, in case you didn't know. Try putting a CPVC coupler on a barrel and then lengthening the CPVC. If that doesn't work, then your darts are probably the cause.


MagStrike is a springer?! Never heard of Magstrike spring replacement...
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 11:43 AM

A magstrike is a springer, in case you didn't know. Try putting a CPVC coupler on a barrel and then lengthening the CPVC. If that doesn't work, then your darts are probably the cause.


MagStrike is a springer?! Never heard of Magstrike spring replacement...



Congratulations, you have confused me. Then what does the bladder and pump setup do?
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#8 nerfer63

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 11:43 AM

A magstrike is a springer, in case you didn't know. Try putting a CPVC coupler on a barrel and then lengthening the CPVC. If that doesn't work, then your darts are probably the cause.


MagStrike is a springer?! Never heard of Magstrike spring replacement...



Well its kinda a springer because the spring is inside the piston so you can't get to it.
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#9 Blue

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:37 PM

The pump an bladder setup fills up a chamber, creating pressure. This pressure pushes the spring down, and at a certain point, the spring's seal goes past a hole, which lets the pressure out and allows the spring to travel back to where it once was, which makes air come out and shoot a dart. Then the pressure starts up again and it does this until there's not enough pressure in the bladder to compress the spring. I just observed my Wildfire, which is basically a clear Magstrike, and that's what I thought was happening, although I'm not exactly sure how the pressure is released.
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#10 ilzot

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 02:35 PM

A Magstrike is an airpowered.

Pump = Airpowered

Priming Handle/"Coker handel" = Springer.

EDIT - By my definitions. If you want to consider it a springer, that's fine, but I say it's airpowered, as you can only mess around with the bladder and pump. Not any springs. Clips too, but that doesn't matter.

'Nuff said there.

But. I've actually never seen any Magstrikes getting 50-60 feet at all. Most mods just make it able to shoot 2 or more clips in one pumping segment.

Edited by ilzot, 23 May 2009 - 02:37 PM.

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#11 Blue

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 02:42 PM

A Magstrike is an airpowered.

Pump = Airpowered

Priming Handle/"Coker handel" = Springer.

EDIT - By my definitions. If you want to consider it a springer, that's fine, but I say it's airpowered, as you can only mess around with the bladder and pump. Not any springs. Clips too, but that doesn't matter.

'Nuff said there.

But. I've actually never seen any Magstrikes getting 50-60 feet at all. Most mods just make it able to shoot 2 or more clips in one pumping segment.


I didn't say it wasn't airpowered, I just said it was a springer. The cocking mechanism just happens to be powered by air.
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#12 cheesypiza001

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:17 PM

A Magstrike is an airpowered.

Pump = Airpowered

Priming Handle/"Coker handel" = Springer.

EDIT - By my definitions. If you want to consider it a springer, that's fine, but I say it's airpowered, as you can only mess around with the bladder and pump. Not any springs. Clips too, but that doesn't matter.

'Nuff said there.

But. I've actually never seen any Magstrikes getting 50-60 feet at all. Most mods just make it able to shoot 2 or more clips in one pumping segment.


I didn't say it wasn't airpowered, I just said it was a springer. The cocking mechanism just happens to be powered by air.


The deal with the piston mechanism is that it works like an "air gun" or "pump gun," not a springer. The easiest way to test this is to hold the piston in your hands. After it reaches the most extended part of the stroke, hold onto it and don't let it return to it's resting position. As the valve open that normally allows it to return to it's resting position, you hold it in place but notice that the air still rushes out, just like before. Without the plunger moving back like in a springer, the dart can still be launched with just enough force.

I really need to post all of my findings with these things, because I have at least as much experience with them as I do with Big Salvos.


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#13 TantumBull

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:18 PM

The spring is to regulate the amount of air that fills the piston which is then expelled BUT NOT BY THE SPRING, just by the pressure thats built up. This is why (sorry can't remember his name)'s piston expansion works on the rf20. More air is required to actuate the piston, but the same pressure because of the spring regulation.
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#14 cheesypiza001

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:23 PM

The spring is to regulate the amount of air that fills the piston which is then expelled BUT NOT BY THE SPRING, just by the pressure thats built up. This is why (sorry can't remember his name)'s piston expansion works on the rf20. More air is required to actuate the piston, but the same pressure because of the spring regulation.


His name is oodalumps. Here is his RF20 mod.
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#15 Blue

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:48 PM

Sorry, didn't mean to post.

Edited by Blue, 23 May 2009 - 03:49 PM.

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