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#1 hereticorp

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 09:38 AM

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Begin with a holder, I like a piece of wood with 1/2" holes drilled in it, other people like 1/2-3/4" pieces of PETG, it depends on what you prefer. This particular one holds 200 blanks.

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Filling 200 holes with blanks takes a while, I suggest watching TV or something while you do it. It's a mindless activity.

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This is the trick that I discovered a little while back. A cheap little Weller soldering iron will make a hole that's just about perfectly sized for a Copperhead BB. You just have to be careful not to keep it in the foam too long or it will melt everything around it and make a larger hole.

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For Single BB darts, a quick dip about 1/4" in will work perfectly. For Type D you need to go about 1/2" as quickly as possible to avoid overmelt, and for type S you need to go in about 3/8" and hold for a second so a larger diameter is created.

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Once the holes are made, insert your chosen weight. Notice the difference in the hole size from the top row to the bottom row.

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Then you fill in with hot glue and you're all done. Top row is Single BB, Second is Type D, Third is Type S.

You just have to be careful not to let the hot glue gun sit for too long or it'll get so hot that it'll melt right through the dart. You want the glue to be only semi-liquid, not running like water.

So there you have it, that's how I do my stefans that I both use and sell. Hope you enjoyed.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 11:03 AM

I want to know how you apply the hot glue. Domes have always been the hardest part for me, which is alright, because they affect the accuracy of the darts less than any other factor (with straight cuts being at the highest impact). Nice domes just make the darts look much better.
Do you do a swirl around the weight, or a flow right on top of it or what? Swirl from the weight out maybe?
Blacksunshine, your input on this would be fantastic. Your domes always look really nice.
Also, what power glue guns do you use to make the domes?
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 11:21 AM

I want to know how you apply the hot glue. Domes have always been the hardest part for me, which is alright, because they affect the accuracy of the darts less than any other factor (with straight cuts being at the highest impact). Nice domes just make the darts look much better.
Do you do a swirl around the weight, or a flow right on top of it or what? Swirl from the weight out maybe?
Blacksunshine, your input on this would be fantastic. Your domes always look really nice.
Also, what power glue guns do you use to make the domes?


Straight down from the center of the weight, pool it upwards and then swirl until the glue string attaching the dome to the gun breaks.

The glue will settle into a very nice dome that way. Don't move the gun while the glue is flowing, after you stop pulling the trigger lift up slightly and swirl. Let gravity form the dome for you.

I use a 10w mini-glue gun. I tried it with a 40w and it melted the shit out of everything and even a 20w gets too hot if you leave it sit for more than a minute or two. The 10w is a good power for darts.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 11:11 PM

If you want a perfect dome. Just add the hot glue and before it melts dip it in ice cold water for 10 seconds or less, depening on how cold the water is. And you willbhave a nice round hard tip (no pun please) :(
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Posted 13 February 2009 - 12:15 AM

Hmmm...The board with the holes iis a good idea, I just use a old grate from a ironing board right now.
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That's about it. And thanks Angela who helped me with these pictures.. It looks huge in her hands.


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Posted 13 February 2009 - 07:51 AM

If you want a perfect dome. Just add the hot glue and before it melts dip it in ice cold water for 10 seconds or less, depening on how cold the water is. And you willbhave a nice round hard tip (no pun please) :)

Your weight can move around if you do that.
I burn a big hole, nearing the outside edges of the foam. Then I drop my weight in and fill up the hole a little past the top. the glue actually fulls some of the foam in, curving the top of the dart.
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Posted 13 February 2009 - 08:06 AM

If you want a perfect dome. Just add the hot glue and before it melts dip it in ice cold water for 10 seconds or less, depening on how cold the water is. And you willbhave a nice round hard tip (no pun please) :)

Your weight can move around if you do that.
I burn a big hole, nearing the outside edges of the foam. Then I drop my weight in and fill up the hole a little past the top. the glue actually fulls some of the foam in, curving the top of the dart.


Moving the dart at all before the glue is set can cause bad things to happen with both the dome and the weight, I don't favor the ice water method at all.

It's extremely hard to get a consistent dome if you're pumping a ton of glue into each dart, especially if you don't have enough foam at the edge to keep the sides from bowing out due to the sheer weight of the glue.

Besides, if you put a ton of glue in, it changes the weight profile of the dart and you want consistency more than anything with darts.
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