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#1 halfway33

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:20 PM

Okay, I got a Pump Action Shotgun yesterday. I have already couplered it and it's drying from a mettalic lime green and black paintjob. When it was working I was getting high 80s low 90s flat with black stefans in cpvc. Frankly I want to be hitting 120s with a bad dart. Now, I read Angels PAS level 2 mod write up and I was wondering if there were any springs that anyone would reccomend. Before you start saying "whiptail scorpion spring nanananana" you see..... I'm kind of broke right now and I can barely afford anything aside from my basic nerfing needs. if anyone has any ideas on springs that are AVAILIBLE IN STORES NOW, please tell me. if you reccomend an industrial spring, please specify the exact name of it. Thanks in advance.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:27 PM

I asked angel, and he said a LS spring would help. Make sure you reinforce it too.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:28 PM

Dude, 80-90ft from a PAS is great, if you do anything else it will need to be super reinforced like angels.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:33 PM

1/3 of a +Bow spring is what I have in mine.
It works amazingly, 100+ feet.
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#5 halfway33

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:36 PM

yeah. I have STEEL sheeting with epoxy putty over everything. I think it can hold its own against any spring.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:36 PM

I've found that both Longshot and Big Bad Bow springs work in mine. I think 1 1/2 NF springs would work too.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:48 PM

I suggest you try to eliminate most if not all dead space from the PAS.
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That's about it. And thanks Angela who helped me with these pictures.. It looks huge in her hands.


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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:51 PM

I suggest you try to eliminate most if not all dead space from the PAS.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 11:00 PM

Well I don't really know what to help with,

on my K9 special, I have a RSCB creating a lot of dead space and with just the stock spring, I was hitting 80-100 feet. so you are getting decent ranges. But You really have to layer the crap out plunger rod if you do add a spring
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That's about it. And thanks Angela who helped me with these pictures.. It looks huge in her hands.


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Posted 12 February 2009 - 12:41 AM

I have 1/2 of a +Bow spring along with the stock spring in my PAS, and haven't really needed to reinforce much. The plunger is doing fine, as is.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 08:39 PM

I've found that both Longshot and Big Bad Bow springs work in mine. I think 1 1/2 NF springs would work too.


How do you fir the big bad bow spring in? It doesn't fit for me right now.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 08:43 PM

I've found that both Longshot and Big Bad Bow springs work in mine. I think 1 1/2 NF springs would work too.


How do you fir the big bad bow spring in? It doesn't fit for me right now.

It's a bit tricky. You have to carefully push and twist the spring at different angles to get it on.
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#13 Merzlin

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 08:54 PM

Don't push it on. You'll either mess up your spring or break your plunger rod. Simply Coil it on by putting it between each coil and turning continuously.
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#14 halfway33

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 09:44 PM

okay. i'm putting in a longshot spring, a big bad bow spring, and an AR-15 spring. thanks for your help guys. :(
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