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#1 Norflark

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 11:58 PM

Okay so first off, ive seen quite a few things saying that basic AR's removed etc. will get about 35 ft or so. Well i'm guessing those are older nfs because i have the newer ones, all of which are unmodded and go that distance flat, and one that consistently gets 40 flat (YEAH I KNOW, UNMODDED!). Im looking to make my NF get about 60' flat with streamlines and/or taggers. I say this so please, spare me the 30 replies saying that stefans will increase range, our wars only use the 2. Chiefly, is this possible?

What i had in mind was removing the AR and using CPVC/brass for the barrel(ive heard that 4 inches works best), double the o-ring, and is it possible to nest something in the NF spring? (ive got mavs, 10-shots, front of a longshot, and a doubleshot). If not, or if it is better, i could replace it with a lowes/home depot/ace spring (preferably whatever's best without really needing to reinforce the gun). Now onto my AR questions, ive heard there's 2? Huh? Ive seen pictures of the internals plenty of times and only seen one. I have not yet taken mine apart because i am cheap and do not want to risk breaking a gun. As for the spring -> 3-prong-thingamabob -> stick-that-the-darts-slide-onto restrictor, would it be better to just lost the spring/3 prong thing and keep the other part with the stick and not drill it out since i am sticking with using stock darts? or would breaking the stick off and drilling this out still improve range for stock also? and would all this reach 60' for streamlines/taggers or would something more need to be done?
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:11 AM

Let me give you some sound advice before anyone answers all your questions for you, "noob".
The best way to go about whatever you're trying to accomplish is to just try things out on your own. Don't go by what other people have done, don't go by what you think you're supposed to do, and don't expect everyone to give you all the answers to things. Go on and explore your creativity. Think up things that no ones ever tried before. Then you test it and see if it was worth it or not. If it was, good for you. If not, then think of it as learning from experience. This is the best way to start out, otherwise you'll end up like alot of members who only post re-posts of previously done mods that they just read the write up about and copied without innovating in any way. Okay, i'm done with my rant.

To answer your questions, just take out all the ARs if you really want 60 ft flat out of a NF. You could interlace more springs with the stock one, but i'd suggest just replacing it with an overall more powerful, single spring. A barrel replacement is not necessarily necessary on the NF if you're just going to use taggers and streamlines.

I just answered most if not all your questions to help you get started.
And use the damn search function, because we're not always as patient or generous as i just was.

Edited by Norther_of_Heaven, 21 January 2009 - 12:13 AM.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:12 AM

This should answer all your questions.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:18 AM

This should answer all your questions.


Having not even opened a nf before and being able to at least come up with what I did say, wouldnt a reasonably intelligent person assume that I had already researched most of the crap I was talking about and looked up previous mods and whatnot USING the search feature?

Basically all mods with nfs use stefans AND searching nightfinder mods comes up with a crapload of stuff about nesting nf spring into other guns.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:23 AM

Let me give you some sound advice before anyone answers all your questions for you, "noob".
The best way to go about whatever you're trying to accomplish is to just try things out on your own. Don't go by what other people have done, don't go by what you think you're supposed to do, and don't expect everyone to give you all the answers to things. Go on and explore your creativity. Think up things that no ones ever tried before. Then you test it and see if it was worth it or not. If it was, good for you. If not, then think of it as learning from experience. This is the best way to start out, otherwise you'll end up like alot of members who only post re-posts of previously done mods that they just read the write up about and copied without innovating in any way. Okay, i'm done with my rant.

To answer your questions, just take out all the ARs if you really want 60 ft flat out of a NF. You could interlace more springs with the stock one, but i'd suggest just replacing it with an overall more powerful, single spring. A barrel replacement is not necessarily necessary on the NF if you're just going to use taggers and streamlines.

I just answered most if not all your questions to help you get started.
And use the damn search function, because we're not always as patient or generous as i just was.


First. I will. I know. But doing some successful basic modding FIRST might help one be able to do their own more "original mods." I am also not dumb enough to repost an unoriginal mod, i just want to make it.
By all the ar's great, but still confused on what the "second ar" would be?
why wouldnt barrel replacement help?

And I DID use the damn search function. That question list was immense before i wrote this, and i knocked out about 90% of it on my own.

Edited by Norflark, 21 January 2009 - 12:23 AM.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:39 AM

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:41 AM

Let me give you some sound advice before anyone answers all your questions for you, "noob".
The best way to go about whatever you're trying to accomplish is to just try things out on your own. Don't go by what other people have done, don't go by what you think you're supposed to do, and don't expect everyone to give you all the answers to things. Go on and explore your creativity. Think up things that no ones ever tried before. Then you test it and see if it was worth it or not. If it was, good for you. If not, then think of it as learning from experience. This is the best way to start out, otherwise you'll end up like alot of members who only post re-posts of previously done mods that they just read the write up about and copied without innovating in any way. Okay, i'm done with my rant.

To answer your questions, just take out all the ARs if you really want 60 ft flat out of a NF. You could interlace more springs with the stock one, but i'd suggest just replacing it with an overall more powerful, single spring. A barrel replacement is not necessarily necessary on the NF if you're just going to use taggers and streamlines.

I just answered most if not all your questions to help you get started.
And use the damn search function, because we're not always as patient or generous as i just was.


First. I will. I know. But doing some successful basic modding FIRST might help one be able to do their own more "original mods." I am also not dumb enough to repost an unoriginal mod, i just want to make it.
By all the ar's great, but still confused on what the "second ar" would be?
why wouldnt barrel replacement help?

And I DID use the damn search function. That question list was immense before i wrote this, and i knocked out about 90% of it on my own.

I was not calling you dumb nor was i saying you were posting something unoriginal. I knew this was one of if not your first mod because you haven't even opened up the gun yet, and you yourself called yourself a Noob so don't get upset if people call you a Noob, Noob. Christ.

By ARs in GENERAL i mean ANYTHING that restricts airflow inside the gun. Take them ALL out.
A barrel replacement (in this case) wouldn't help much. Granted, it definitely wouldn't hurt, but the NF's stock barrel has a good fit on streamlines and taggers in the first place. Its not necessary unless you really want it. Micros, Taggers and basically any other stock dart will only go down barrels to a certain point because of their length before the head of the dart keeps it from going down any further. This excludes streamlines.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:45 AM

Thank you!
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:48 AM

A CPVC barrel replacement will definitely help with stock darts. The stock barrel is too wide except for at the base.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:49 AM

Let me give you some sound advice before anyone answers all your questions for you, "noob".
The best way to go about whatever you're trying to accomplish is to just try things out on your own. Don't go by what other people have done, don't go by what you think you're supposed to do, and don't expect everyone to give you all the answers to things. Go on and explore your creativity. Think up things that no ones ever tried before. Then you test it and see if it was worth it or not. If it was, good for you. If not, then think of it as learning from experience. This is the best way to start out, otherwise you'll end up like alot of members who only post re-posts of previously done mods that they just read the write up about and copied without innovating in any way. Okay, i'm done with my rant.

To answer your questions, just take out all the ARs if you really want 60 ft flat out of a NF. You could interlace more springs with the stock one, but i'd suggest just replacing it with an overall more powerful, single spring. A barrel replacement is not necessarily necessary on the NF if you're just going to use taggers and streamlines.

I just answered most if not all your questions to help you get started.
And use the damn search function, because we're not always as patient or generous as i just was.


First. I will. I know. But doing some successful basic modding FIRST might help one be able to do their own more "original mods." I am also not dumb enough to repost an unoriginal mod, i just want to make it.
By all the ar's great, but still confused on what the "second ar" would be?
why wouldnt barrel replacement help?

And I DID use the damn search function. That question list was immense before i wrote this, and i knocked out about 90% of it on my own.

I was not calling you dumb nor was i saying you were posting something unoriginal. I knew this was one of if not your first mod because you haven't even opened up the gun yet, and you yourself called yourself a Noob so don't get upset if people call you a Noob, Noob. Christ.

By ARs in GENERAL i mean ANYTHING that restricts airflow inside the gun. Take them ALL out.
A barrel replacement (in this case) wouldn't help much. Granted, it definitely wouldn't hurt, but the NF's stock barrel has a good fit on streamlines and taggers in the first place. Its not necessary unless you really want it. Micros, Taggers and basically any other stock dart will only go down barrels to a certain point because of their length before the head of the dart keeps it from going down any further. This excludes streamlines.


Okay, so to clarify i was not saying this in an offended defensive sort of way, merely a "obviously, ..." sort of way(if that makes any sense).

I guess thats clear enough.
And thank you.
And i hope that it reaches 60 when im done.
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#11 Norflark

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:51 AM

A CPVC barrel replacement will definitely help with stock darts. The stock barrel is too wide except for at the base.


1/2" CPVC barrel it is.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 01:56 AM

The "second ar" that sputnik posted was actually the plunger stop. If you're going to mess with it, just drill a hole in the center. Unless it's hindering you from doing a mod, then I suggest that you leave it be. Personally, I've never noticed a difference in range between ones with holes and ones without.

Edited by futureseal, 21 January 2009 - 01:59 AM.

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