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[MysticFalcon182]

I have an idea... Like I usually do... But this idea, well, it's new... Like my others...

I'm thinking of getting anotehr sm5k and integrating all those parts into a compact case, which gives me a pistol. I'll hafta somehow do this without screwing up the gun's performance.

First-- I need another sm5k. I can probably get this.
Second-- I need a good small case. Any ideas please?
Third-- Somehow transfer the parts over and make them fit well. I've got the almost impossible to do trigger handled, everything else is just big.

The main problem is the valve and all the crap that goes with it. The valve thingy is located near the barrel, and it's pretty big. I somehow need to get it to fit into a pistol-sized casing.

If you or anyone you know has experience in the internals of the sm5k, please help me out! Thanks.

~Mystic~

[GunnedDown]

Someone at NHQ put 5000 internals into the Ball Blaster. Says it works good. You could really trick people with that...

"Hah, that's just a wussy ball bla... *WHACK* WHAT THE HELL?"

[cxwq]

I don't have my at2k handy but I'd imagine that's your best candidate for a pistol sized case that will handle a sm5k tank. You'd need to mount it roughly mid-case and internalize at least 3 or 4 inches of the barrel. I'll take a look at mine when I get home and see if it's possible if you like. The other obvious advantage is that the at2k pump is much superior to the sm5k pump. Including the barrel, you'd end up with something roughly the size of a modded EaB but somewhat lighter.

[MysticFalcon182]

For a case, I personally don't really prefer using an at2k... The at2k is already good on its own, and there's no need to switch the internals, I might as well just use the at2k itself. As for the ball blaster, I don't really know...

Another way I could get a case would be get a non-Nerf case or make my own... But still, I don't know about that either...

Any more suggestions would be great... Thanks so far!

~Mystic~

[p8ntballsnowman]

Someone at NHQ put 5000 internals into the Ball Blaster. Says it works good. You could really trick people with that...

"Hah, that's just a wussy ball bla... *WHACK* WHAT THE HELL?"

Yeah, that was me. It works nicely, since i broke my sm5k shell trying to get it open. Gets the same range, but not as good rof, since the pump is kinda in a wierd position. Im working on attaching it to the handle or something though. I can email pics if u want.

[PhoenixFlame]

I have basically done this, except all I did was take the internals (plunger, barrel, and tank) and put them in the green barrel part of the 5k. I had gotten the 5k from a friend for free. It had no plunger and no attchments. Good thing CXWG (srry if i spelled ur name wrong) told me he took his 1.5k plunger part and put it in the 5ks. When I was trying to bend the metal rod thing into the trigger, it was taking way to long so I just put the tank at the end of the green barrel and put the brass tubing out throught the other end. The plunger is on the bottom. I will post pix As soon as possible.

[MysticFalcon182]

I'm also thinking of integrating my current sm5k's internals into one of those toy rifles that make popping sounds when you pull the trigger... Just for the case, cuz it's pretty cool.

Any pics would be greatly appreciated (I mean the internals), thanks!

~Mystic~

[p8ntballsnowman]

Sorry, but i dont have a pic of the internals. Their is a really bad glare where the part is, and the other parts are duct taped. The tank fits very snuggly into the ball blaster front, to front, to give u a rough idea of the size. Then u have the wire going back, which u can cut down. It could easily be made into a pistol, but the barrel might be too short, and the tank too powerfull. If u dont pump it as much, it would work. I might try to do that.

[GunnedDown]

I have basically done this, except all I did was take the internals (plunger, barrel, and tank) and put them in the green barrel part of the 5k. I had gotten the 5k from a friend for free. It had no plunger and no attchments. Good thing CXWG (srry if i spelled ur name wrong) told me he took his 1.5k plunger part and put it in the 5ks. When I was trying to bend the metal rod thing into the trigger, it was taking way to long so I just put the tank at the end of the green barrel and put the brass tubing out throught the other end. The plunger is on the bottom. I will post pix As soon as possible.

Good freaking luck. 1.5k pumps won't do so well in an SM5k. Bad idea..

[cxwq]

Sure it will. We're talking the whole pump here... plunger and tube.

It's ten times better than the one that comes with the 5k.

[MysticFalcon182]

It's ten times better than the one that comes with the 5k.

I'll try that... If I can even get an sm1.5k!

Hm... I suppose I can try to make a case for it...

~Mystic~

[Zero Talent]

Oh, does the Super Maxx 5000 pump suffer from the same thing as the Super Maxx 3000 [blue]? Where some of the air goes past the pump's O-ring as you pump? I know that annoys the hell out of me on the Super Maxx 3000, and I can't see any other way the Super Maxx 1500 pump could be "better." I don't own a Super Maxx 5000, but this karp is good to know.

[cxwq]

The 5k has two problems with the pump. One is that the o-ring isn't entirely tight within the tube. A little 10w30 helps a lot with this problem. The other is that the tube is made of a really shitty type of plastic that develops hairline cracks that are impossible to repair properly (nothing bonds to it) and grow with time.

Obviously, it's not worth swapping in a 1.5k pump if your 5k pump is working okay... it's more of a repair option.

[Pineapple]

The 5k has two problems with the pump. One is that the o-ring isn't entirely tight within the tube. A little 10w30 helps a lot with this problem. The other is that the tube is made of a really shitty type of plastic that develops hairline cracks that are impossible to repair properly (nothing bonds to it) and grow with time.

Obviously, it's not worth swapping in a 1.5k pump if your 5k pump is working okay... it's more of a repair option.

Exactly. The SM5k I received was completely okay...except for the pump case that blew into several pieces when pumped 7-8 times with the relief valve plugged. Long story short, I took a complete pump assembly from one of my trashed 1500s (also overpumped by the fool who borrowed it, ruined the air chamber) and dropped it right in with some small adjustments. Even used the 5k pump handle on it. So you get some shorter strokes with less volume, I just pump it 9-10 times and get enough pressure to shoot a zero dart 100 feet in my warehouse. It suits me fine.

[Vassili]

I have a Larami 2k inside my EaB but I'm having problems connecting it to the trigger and I think air leaks out through the pump. Still working on it. I might also have an At2k on the bottom part.

[Dysenteric]

If you have a saw and some pliers you can fit the sm5k internals into the pistol half of the defender t3.

[MysticFalcon182]

If you have a saw and some pliers

If.

My hacksaw sucks... I was just down in my basement for half an hour trying to internal mod my current SM5k (for some reason the trigger thingy is too weak for me to drill a hole) and I had to saw with the small blade from my hacksaw with my hands because the saw was too big...

How is the case? Is it good and easy to hold?

~Mystic~

[Dysenteric]

It's pretty comfortable to hold.
One thing you should note is that, Depending on the placement of the internals and the length of the barrel you use, the gun may be a bit front heavy. That problem could be solved by placing the airtank in the very back of the gun, with the pump either protruding from the handle or taped to the side of the gun.