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#1 kluve56

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 11:56 PM

I am about to embark on the great journey that is attempting a homemade, yet I had a few questions before I begin. No, I am not asking if something would work or not, I just need some help in areas I don't quite understand.

1. Anyone who is an expert on inline clips or rscb clips, please pm me. There are a few things I need to know.

2. How does the Vulcan rotate the chain to the next shot, turning the gears the exact same amount with each trigger pull? I need to adapt this so I would have a motor turning a turret every time the trigger is pulled.

3. Captain Slug, I think, will probably be the most knowledgeable on this one, but how does the trigger release air from a hpa tank? Is it a mechanical action or is it due to air pressure? I want to be able to do this without just building a blaster over a paintball gun.
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 01:36 AM

Pm'd regarding the inline issue. As far as imitating a Vulcan goes, I'd try something a LOT simpler. It would be very difficult to mimic that particular system, which is flawed even when manufactured to (relatively) close tolerances. Full-auto would be absolutely achievable in a homemade, but I would look into other designs. To my knowledge, air is released from a HPA tank, passes through a regulator, is stopped by a push-button valve, and is released into your gun's onboard tank, which fires the dart. I am no expert on this topic, but I believe that's the gist of it.
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:07 AM

Pm'd regarding the inline issue. As far as imitating a Vulcan goes, I'd try something a LOT simpler. It would be very difficult to mimic that particular system, which is flawed even when manufactured to (relatively) close tolerances. Full-auto would be absolutely achievable in a homemade, but I would look into other designs. To my knowledge, air is released from a HPA tank, passes through a regulator, is stopped by a push-button valve, and is released into your gun's onboard tank, which fires the dart. I am no expert on this topic, but I believe that's the gist of it.


I see. Well I am not attempting to make a full auto gun, as I find them useless. I just need to find a way to turn a very heavy turret. The concept I'm looking at is a 6 barrel turret, but every barrel has a small inline clip. This would allow 6 shots on true semi auto, point gun down, 6 more, point gun down, 6 more, and so on. Since the air source would be the hpa tank, you wouldnt have to worry about reloading/pumping for a very long time. The way you described the hpa tank working, I would probabbly hook a titan tank up to it, and fire that, with it reapressurizing every shot. With this design, you could like get about 3 extra darts in every barrel of the turret, plus one already loaded, therefore giving you 24 shots before reloading.
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:18 AM

In order to turn a turret using a motor (lovely idea, by the way), you'll need some electronics and what-not, but nothing as sophisticated as a Vulcan-type advancing system. It hasn't been done, so you're on your own, in terms of designing it, to my knowledge. I'm sure there are systems out there that you could adapt. Research, research. I'm totally using an inline turret on something now. Thanks.
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 06:43 AM

http://www.electroki...s-timers/28.htm

Something like the 2nd and 3rd kits in conjunction with a motor + power source would be a relatively simple way to operate the turret. It would take a little experimenting, but the basic idea is that you power on the motor, then after a short time the timer relay cuts it off, with the time it's on being just enough to rotate the turret between two barrels.

http://www.docsmachi.../tech/regs.html

This explains regulators for HPA systems, which I interpreted as your original question. It's a little of both mechanical and pressure operated. It uses a method of adjustable tension on a check valve, so that once the desired pressure is reached on the outside of the tank, the valve closes.
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#6 kluve56

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 07:37 AM

Thank you everyone for the help. I will be posting a prototype "Inline turret" up, hopefully tonight.
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